If you can program the decoders through decoder pro why would one buy the set 100. I model in N-scale and I dont think I need the extra functions?
I do like the seamingly easier to use push button for some functions but I will most likely use the 90’s knob.
Am I correct in this assessment[?]
That’s one of reasons why I chose the Lenz Set-90. I like the knob style controller (reminscent of DC controllers) and I plan on using the computer interface for programming and other controls.
I’ve got one of each, and I greatly prefer the 100 controller. I originally bought a Set 100 and then added the 90 controller, because I thought the large analog control knob was more intuitive. However, just about everything else is much more awkward. The 90 is also limited to a “stack size” of 8 locomotive addresses that you can scroll between.
Switching between two locomotives is simple with the 100 - just enter the address or scroll, and the controller will pick up the current state of the locomotive. The 90 will get the state of the locomotive, but then you must manually match direction and speed to take control.
I think the number of controllable functions is also more limited, but I’ve only got 4-function locomotives right now so I’m not too sure. As the sophistication of decoders increases, more and more of the higher-order functions will be needed for sound and lighting, so you may find that the 90 isn’t up to the task.
Both of my Lenz controllers, as well as the rest of the Lenz system, have been working perfectly for close to a year now, and I have nothing but good things to say about the quality of the overall products.
Because one always doesn’t want to always have to boot the computer to make a 10 second change.
True I like running the trains from a LH-90. The analog feel of the throttle is great. I like the physical direction switch as well. Unfortunately everything else, even locomotive aquisition, is a pain. After a couple months I gave up trying to do anything other than run a train with the LH-90.
No, even if one uses DecoderPro or any of the other zillions of computer software programs to do the initial programming there are always things you will still want to do on the fly. If I had to run to the computer everytime I wanted to set up or break down a Double Head or MU during an operating session I would go nuts.
If you are going to buy a Lenz system, get the one that comes with the LH-100. Just add LH-90s as additional throttles (or better yet get the CVP wireless as add on throttles!).
I added a XPA phone adaptor for a cordless phone, I find it’s an excellent throttle.
Ken.
Yes, several of the people at the club have them. I find them to be OK if you can turn off the “beeping” some do every key touch. That drives me crazy.
I recommended the CVP because like the LH-90 they have the “knob” control for the throttle instead of push buttons, which seemed to be a desired feature of the original poster.
I have a Lenz 100 set and like the functionality of the push button throttle. I also have a 90 throttle for use on my Express net as a secondary throttle. So I like this combination and think it was a good sellection for me.
Bob
I bought a Lenz 100 and the 90 cab.
After having it a year now, I find myself using the 100 cab almost all the time.
At first the knob on the 90 seemed easier then the pushbuttons on the 100, however the more you use the 100 the less I liked using the 90’s knob.
Now the 90 is used primarily by a visitor only.
The 100 cab is great! Plus having all the capability of the system on one controller is a real advantage.
Texas Zepher mentioned a CVP wireless throttle (with knob control). What is this? Is it a Lenz product?
Jerry
Ditto! The CVP wireless with the Lenz 100 is a great combination. I am a lone wolf operator and I only use the tethered throttle for my main yard and the push button throttle is fine for low speeds of yard switching. I do like having the knob throttle out on the main.
Awesome responses, Thank you.[:)]
I never have operated s DCC system before but it seems that some on the fly programing may be desired for after some experience. I will look into the cvp throttle.
No, CVP is a company out of Dallas Texas.
The old and new versions of their throttles are on the web pages below:
http://www.cvpusa.com/wireless_throttle_rf1300.php
http://www.cvpusa.com/doc_center/t9000.pdf
The only thing I don’t like about them is that there can only be 8. So on the large club layout the yard operators often still have to use wired throttles.
And they won’t sell me one!! Because of the frequency regulations in other countries. Darn they sound good to, oh well back to the cordless phone.
Ken.
Thanks for the CVP info. They look great but a bit pricey. I’ll have to decide whether to go this route or keep my cordless phone and buy a new loco! Tough decision.
Jerry
Like many others I have both, actually 2 90’s, and the XPA phone adapter. The thing I like most is programing the decoders using DecoderPro so one touch on the button starts the train in motion.