They definitely need more tinplate in the catalog. [|(]
Regards,
Clint
"They definitely need more tinplate in the catalog. "
I agree. The Prewar Celebration Series should start in 2007. One reason I ordered the 269E set, even though I’d have preferred it with TMCC, and it is overpriced, is to encourage them to continue with this approach. I’d guess the set
is testing the waters for tinplate…
I, Too was hoping that Lionel would have more Tinplate in this catalog as has been pointed out in this forum before that there are still plenty of prewar trains for Lionel to reproduce, i.e. Flying Yankee, 249E with 600 series freight or passenger cars. 1688,1668,& 1689E with Tin Litho Freight or Passenger Cars. The 224E,225E& 226E.Engine Trio. The 203 Yard Goat with the B-6 Wheels & Siderods.They can also come out with the Tin Prewar # 45 Gateman & the Orange & Cream operating Bell Shack, #154 Highway Flasher with the Hiawatha Orange Base & the Diecast crossbuck in white & Diecast Light Housings with the Large Incadesent Bulbs(Instead of the Miniture ones used now![:(]) This would be a good list for them to start with. Lionel, are you listening?[:)] Take Care all.
All excellent suggestions, Keith!
Do you know something that we don’t, Neil (hopefully)?
- Clint
P.S. Somebody (Tinplate Art) on another forum pointed out that Lionel, LLC has yet to publicly recognize 2006 as the centennial anniversary of Standard gauge (a Lionel origination). The company also missed 2005 as the 75th anniversary of the introduction of their own Standard gauge Blue Comet. For shame.
For years I wanted a 042 O guage switch, not the 027 they have made for years. Now they have one in the catalog. I can’t believe they actually introduced a new tubular switch with the success of Fastrack.
“I can’t believe they actually introduced a new tubular switch with the success of Fastrack.”
That’s K-Lines O-42 switch.
Nope, I’m just expressing a hope :). If the 269 set does well, I’d guess we’ll see more tinplate, if not, not.
I was hoping to see more K-line stuff, esp the new street/car track system. Does this mean it’s dead? I hope they really market some of their stuff. I think K-lines 120 w transformer should replace the cw-80, I wonder if K-line and their products will resemble Am Flyer in their catalog–an afterthought. If Lionel sold Am Flyer to a third party, I bet that third party could put together one heck of a great and profitable catalog. S-scalers would kill for the attention, and I’d probably be working in S instead of O. The prices aren’t great, but there are some modestly-priced things for us who aren’t that scale/detail-conscious. Glad I didn’t buy TMCC-I as it’s already become obsolete. Should I go after version II or go with Mth’s version which is still robust and almost exactly what the new Lionel version resembles?
I’d go with DCS if you have PS2 locos, otherwise I’d stick to TMCC, but only if own or plan to own TMCC locos. If you have both, you’ll need both. Contrary to what is said, DCS cannot control TMCC locos in command mode without the TMCC command base, and the cab-1 is essential as well.
As far as your other comments, TMCC I is not obsolete, it will operate more of the features of TMCC II locos than DCS can, and it can also operate important features of TMCC I locos that DCS cannot access. It appears it will remain available as an economy version of TMCC II, at least for a while. TMCC II and DCS appear to have very little in common to me except that they’re both command systems, and both handhelds have LCD screens. They have completely different approaches in many areas.
Wow! The K-Line stuff got expensive! $259 for a starter set Pacific in K-Lionel livery? Uh, no. The MP-15 might interest me though. A few tempting things, but not much. Starter sets and add-ons got their usual $20 increase. Jim
I dont understand that one either. Those came in starter sets with cars track and transformer for under $259. I see those at shows in new condition for $100, some with a railsounds tender. Bring back K-line with K-line pricing.
nblum, Sorry for the sarcasm, I realize TMCC-I isn’t obsolete, I just feel for those who put a ton of money into it and now see a shiny, new version that will eventually replace it. Lionel is a good company, and I buy from them proudly, but I’d like a stated vision w/ regard to TMCC and the future. Technology tends to really make it hard to support older versions of a product, as they push newer ones. EX: Microsoft does not support/help those w/ old versions of windows. I think the oldest version they support now in win97. What will happen in 20 years when you need parts/downloads for tmcc-I and they’re on TMCC-IV?
The copy says it’s an all new CW-80. I wonder if that’s just old text or if the transformer was de-bugged. Jim
“I just feel for those who put a ton of money into it and now see a shiny, new version that will eventually replace it.”
I spent $99 for my original Command Base and Cab-1. That isn’t a “ton of money”. These are the only parts that get replaced. Everything else stays the same except that components like the TPC get access to additional features. I can even swap the radio receiver boards on the older engines that have modular boards with the newer TMCC-2 boards. Command base/Cab-1 and a hanfull of receiver boards. Sounds pretty good to me.
“What will happen in 20 years when you need parts/downloads for tmcc-I and they’re on TMCC-IV?”
The same thing that always happens. You keep operating your old stuff, or if replacement parts aren’t available, you scrounge or update. If neither, you discard. Same thing I’ve done with about five or six or seven generations of Macintosh computers and printers over the last 22 years. My 1996 TV isn’t so hot either, compared with the 2006 models. Same for cell phones, dishwashers, automobiles, etc. I don’t want to be using 1956’s antibiotics either :).
im going to put my wish list in from the new catalog well here goes. i think i might beable to get these items if im good to my ole lady:
cp gp30 powered #6-28557 $399.99
cp gp30 non-powered #6-28558 $149.99
cn sd40-2 powered #6-28259 $429.99
cn sd40-2 non powered #6-28260 $169.99
cn cylindrical hopper #6-27169 $64.99 x’s 8
collegiate boxcar #6-39287 $44.99 University of Alabama
tmcc legacy command set #6-14295 $299.99
i hope this list is not to big but we will give it a try anyways.
I like the 2007 SD40-2’s, in both NS, and CN scheme’s. The CP, and Chessie GP30’s look nice too. I would addd the cabooses too.
Trainz is presently setting up their pre order page. There is a link to it that should work soon. Discounted , no tax (except GA) and as always free shipping…
We need more Prewar!
And we need more Postwar!
And more Modern…
And more Standard Gauge,
And more Flyer,
More Traditional…
And… what else??
Pretty nice catalog but I don’t see much in it that are must have items for me. It’s nice to see that Lionel is going to be offering the former K-Line 0-42 switches but the prices are a ripoff. Not going with the K-Line 0-27 switches is a poor decision, but I can just imagine what the prices would be. I bought the last 6 K-Line 0-27 switches a local dealer had for $18 each (regular price). Look what Lionel is asking for their junk 0-27 switches, the K-Lines would have been a good product upgrade.