Dep : I would take it apart & see for yourself if the wires are still very tiny in diameter & then decide if you can rewire it with bigger wires. Maybe this was just a few that came through like that or something. It sure is a highly detailed caboose & I was going to get a Western Pacific one for my articulated steam engine, but they are even harder to find now !! I like the trucks on it as they have the little roller brg. that goes around with the wheels like the real ones !!
Thanks, John
John: Sounds like a good plan as far as checking the size of the wiring. I put in a request for one at SVCtrains. Keeping my fingers crossed [:)]
Dep
Dep : Keep us informed on this if you get one !! Another thing with me was, I didn’t want to send it to Lionel cause I would have been without it for a while and I really liked it !! Hope you get one & it is OK !! Boy, the Westerm Pacific one is really sharp too, according to the catalog !!
Thanks, John
PS !! Maybe you can come on over to The Coffee Pot if you’re still retired & have more time !! We have a lot of fun over there & get to know each other real well !!
Had to resurrect this thread because there was a statement that the red/grey Pacemaker caboose was never used. I did some checking and they WERE used!!! Here’s a website that describes their useage:
http://caboosenut.com/Cab_New_York_Central_Caboose.htm
Little History
The NYC’s “Pacemaker” cabooses were from a group of 50 wood cabeese
with steel underframes that came from scrapped boxcars. The cars were
rebuilt around 1944. The five cars which carried the Pacemaker paint
scheme were resheathed with plywood sides after WW2 when the
Pacemaker service started and painted in the red and gray scheme,
but without the “Pacemaker” lettering.
And here’s a pic of a Pacemaker-painted caboose:
Dep
Check my Oct 17, 2006 comment.
Nice pic.
LOL…I saw that Bob!!! But I like your comment on 10/17 much better:
“As for the red/gray, the book only showed the one style (represented by the MTH no. 7802 body) that was painted for Pacemaker. But don’t get too wrapped around the axle about it - literally, anything is possible to have been done.”
I’m betting the MTH 20-91030 with center cupola existed too. Not sure about the Pacemaker colors in a bay window version, though. MTH also has a scale-sized center cupola in an all-grey version (20-19076?). I wouldn’t be surprised if that is a real deal paint job too.
Dep
BTW I recently scored a New York Central “Safe in '63” pocket protector, which has been added to my white lab coat for the online videos.
Eat your heart out, Dep!
Take note that Lionel and MTH use different shades of red and gray. it is very noticeable side by side.
Bob: You really know how to torture someone!!! [:P] I scored a scale MTH center cupola Pacemaker caboose on E-Bay (20-91030). Also picked up two scale cabeese from Roundhouse South…New York Central Bay Window Caboose 20-91037 and 20-91174 New York Central Steel Sided Caboose. That should put me in good shape for cabeese. But I’d still like to get the center cupola all gray MTH caboose.
James: I wasn’t aware that Lionel colors for Pacemaker are that much different than MTH. I don’t own any Lionel Pacemaker stuff that I can remember, but I’ll keep that in mind.
Bob and DEP not NYC but check this book my wife got me
I think it is just AMAZING how much of this great old STUFF is still out there!
WOW!!! Talk about a blast from the past! [:O]
Good timing, though[:)]. I just recently received an MTH 20-91037 NYC Pacemaker Bay Window Caboose from Roundhouse South and thay had a heck of a time finding one. Now I have a question…what locos would be appropriate with the Pacemaker cabeese and boxcars? Would they be mostly diesel with the black/grey lightning bolt or would they be steam? I know eventually the whole Pacemaker idea slipped by the wayside and Pacemaker boxcars were used on all kinds of NYC trains. I found out Pacemaker service started in 1946. And as far as I can tell the Pacemaker service ended around late 1959. So what were the locos that pulled these express freight cars???
Dep
A REALLY NICE caboose that I haven’t seen mentioned here yet is K Line’s High End Cabeese, they are the nicest cabeese that I have seen yet, with incredible detail, and working smoke units.
Watch for these at shows or on ebay, I know that they did at least a Jade Green bay window, and a brown wood-sided off set cupola, in NYC, both are very good looking cars, that I would reccomend to anyone looking for a nice scale size caboose.
Doug
I agree. They are great looking. There was one at a LHS for the longest time. Super nice.
Jim
For those looking for old K-Line cabooses, check out the following:
This archive was referenced about a month ago. You can track down pieces that you have an interest in and then keep your eyes open…
Regards,
John
I spotted a nice Lionel smoking NYC Bay Window on E-Bay, but I have a bunch of cabeese now, and my VISA can’t justify that much $$. Even though it’s $20 than list price…
