Mauch Chunk and Lehigh Valley

Jack Delano was the great photographer of railroad scenes in Chicago and along the Santa Fe to California.

He visited Mauch Chunk and took these

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2017791585/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2017791337/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2017791360/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2017791332/

http://www.loc.gov/pictur

This is an example of the ‘problem’ that caused wanswheel to be restricted.

Hathitrust provides the page display for online reading on their site, or for fair use. This is not really different from having a library and allowing people to read the copy that you have.

Making a digital copy of this is just as much a violation of copyright under the DMCA as scanning and posting it would be. (It should be noted that HathiTrust can, and does, restrict access to some copyrighted documents even where it possesses complete and readable scanned images or text for them.)

We can argue, of course, whether reposting pages of a free display should also be considered free. There is no doubt how the moderators and administrators of this forum think about the issue, though.

It might be interesting to see whether the original and ‘revised’ editions are both still under copyright, but I’d expect that if the latter is, any of them would be. There is also the moral issue involved with a ‘railfan organization’ holding and benefiting from copyright on the printed version, and perhaps from ‘licensed’ versions of a digital version.

This is not an example of an annoying trend that followed the DMCA, where people who had reprinted long-out-of-copyright texts as ‘resources’ (there are many, for example, in the steam-hobbyist community) could then petition to keep Google Books and HathiTrust from displaying the originals.

Well, if “Savage Tunnel’s” NRHS chapter has a problem with this they should speak to the University of Michigan about it. Certainly no-one on the Forum who references it just for fun purposes here is doing so to make any money off it, or intentionally doing anything wrong, so let’s keep it in perspective.

What I’d do if I was in “S-T’s” place is, for the benefit of anyone interested in things Lehigh Valley, tell us the full title of the book, what his chapter’s selling it for, and how to get a copy. Drum up a little business for the chapter, you know? Also, look at the top of the thread there’s 696 views, that means almost 700 people looking in who don’t care to comment. There’s over 600+ potential customers for your chapters Lehigh Valley book, or any other publications your chapter’s put out.

Just post the chapter’s website, that’s all you have to do.

Treat the thread like a commercial for what looks like a very informative and interesting book. I’d imagine this is the first any of us has heard of it.

Don’t get mad, get marketing!

That’s what I’d do.

The video referenced early in this post is well worth it. The official title is the" LV Railroad, Volume 1, Diesel Operations, Jersey City to Laurel Run, Steam and Diesel Operations mid 40’s to mid 60’s" Many shots of the BLACK DIAMOND, ASA PACKER and JOHN WILKES but none of the ovenite trains, the MAJOR/STAR and MAPLE LEAF.

I thought we might have heard back from “Savage Tunnel” by now, especially after my “…get marketing” suggestions, but since we haven’t, I’ll help him out.

Here’s the Lehigh Valley Chapter of NHRS website…

https://www.lehighlines.org/ Nicely done website, I might add.

For the book he mentioned, and others the chapter’s put out select “Bookstore”, scroll down for the full display, then click on “…order_form.pdf” for the pricing.

VERY reasonable!

So if you’re interested in things “Lehigh Valley,” have a look.