Milk car problem

The [}:)] Doctor is in!!! Elliot, The Doctor is greatful to you in assisting young master
jerry. His little power pack was not up to the task asked of it. I am still going to find
him a larger transformer(can never have too much power) Because I want to keep a
customer happy!
Untill Next Missive, I Remain The Humble, Yet [}:)] Doctor!!!

Doctor, you’re quite welcome. Solving problems is what I live for. I could tell right away that behind that [}:)] mask, there really was a good guy. I said to myself, why would you sell him a dud? And I could only come to one conclusion, YOU WOULDN’T!! and you didn’t. There must be OTHER[}:)] FORCES AT WORK!!! Thanks to our friend Ben and his secret laboratory we were able to identify and thwart these forces.[;)]

I just returned from the post office, and that old type “R” is on it’s way to our young friend. I suspect that by the weekend we will be hearing reports small silver objects being flung into orbit. [swg]

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Thats how you know if you have ENOUGH power. Lanching cans, hee,hee,hee[:-,]

3…2…1… BLASTOFF!!!

No Jerry, actually that’s Lionel’s stuff from the 60’s. Rocket launchers, military, exploding box cars, and the like. I was just teasing your little transformer a bit there, about how that “old brute” is going to power up your milk car. Have you seen any of that stuff at shows?? Very silly, but fun!!![swg]

Woodsytc,
I think that the reason you old 25 watter could power the milk car is because of the type of breaker(or lack thereof).

The modern Lionel 40 watter has an extremely fast acting electronic circuit breaker that will trip within a second if it goes over the rated amperage even slightly, such as when accelerating the small motor in the #50 gang car.

Many of Lionel’s older transformers under 60 amps or so didn’t have a breaker at all. The ones that did had what’s called a thermal breaker, which relies on the heat generated from the current passing through it to trip when the rated current is exceeded. I believe that if the trip current of a thermal breaker is exceeded by 1/2 amp, it can take is as long as 30 minutes to close. A dead short on your track will often exceed 30 amps, and a 5 amp thermal breaker will take as much as 6 seconds to trip with this much overcurrent. This is probably why your milk car will work on the old 25 watter, as the excess current isn’t being drawn long enough to trip the breaker if present.

Hardly a secret lab, Big Boy

More like the control panel to my secret floor layout with a cheap clamp-on Radio Shack analog ammeter[:)]

Looks like your layout is outside Ben.

pax[:O]

Actually Ben, what you have set up there is way more than I have right now. WHATEVER WORKS!!![tup][tup][bow][swg]

ben,
that makes sense, i should have thought of that. the jugs dont fly out at 25 watts either! so… who wants to ask lionel to make a 25 watt 20 ampere transformer[:-^] [(-D]

i went back to check the current draw after reading your previous post and the volts read 12~13 volts and the amp draw was to wild and variable to read (i only have a simpson analog meter) but it was near 6.5~7.5 amps after holding the button for a sec.

seems like a lot of current to me[%-)]

YES!!! I just got it today, wired it, and the milk car WORKS!!![:D][:D][^][(-D][(-D]

Thank you, Thank you Elliot!!!

This 100wt rocks![8D]

You’re Very Welcome Jerry, My pleasure!!![:D]

Glad that you got everything working!

That 100 watts should do you well for a while.

The [}:)] Doctor is in!!! Jerry, Glad Elliot was able to help you. If I had known you were power poor, I would have sold you the LW I have just to have saved problems. It just goes to show that older is sometimes better! Elliot, I owe you one, not sure what or when.But, when you are looking for a Post-War accessory, Let me know and if I have one to sell, It’s yours at NO COST!!! Because what goes around, comes around!
Untill Next Missive, I Remain The Humble, Yet [}:)] Doctor!!!

Thanks for your generous offer Doctor. I’m pretty well set for trains and accesories. Most people don’t realize that I was the one who was responsible for the display at the Mall of America 11 years ago. I have more stuff than I know what to do with!! In this case I saw that Jerry neded more power and it was easy to jump in and help out. For me it is one less thing cluttering up my basement, for Jerry it’s a big deal. Sort of a win-win situation, and it made me feel good to do it. [swg]

P.S. this is my 1600th post

Elliot, do you happen to have any accesories laying around? If you do, which ones, what would you offer?[;)] I heard you were “cleaning up”[:D].

Congratulations on working out your problem, Jerry. I’m looking forward to working with the good doctor on obtaining some accessories too.