Milwaukee Road ideas needed

Hi

I´m increasing my ambitions a bit. For my next H0 project that will be in modular form I will more closely follow a prototype, maybe not to 100%, but more than just laying out the the tracks. The broad selection was easy Milwaukee Road, the seventies (With some running sessions backdated 10 to 20 years.)

My primary interest is switching freightcars and running locals.For my first modules I´m looking for a prototype trackplan of a small town that would see some switching, a few locals and a variety of locomotive types each day.

An interchange with another fallen flag would be nice.

Or any ideas on good places along the Milwaukee Road that would lend itself to modeling. Preferably with a trackplan and/or pictures.

And yes, The Beer Line in Milwaukee is tempting. I have the MR issues and the Kalmbach book but missed ordering the mrha book before it was sold out.

Not exactly a ‘branch line’, but Red Wing, MN would make several good modules. At one time there was a small yard, freight house rail-to-barge elevator and two mills. A connection the CGW was even there. And the Milwaukee Cannon Falls Patrol used the CGW branch to get to Cannon Falls. A GP9 usually was there as the local ‘switcher’. All of this was still there in the 70’s. And of course, a double track mainline where Hiawatha’s once ran!

Jim Bernier

I always thought it would be interesting to model Baraboo, WI. You can look at Google Earth to see the trackage around Baraboo. There are a couple industrial sidings and agriculture is big in the area.

Couple interesting points, Baraboo was the winter home of Ringling Bros. Circus. They had quite an installation for their railcars, and storage facilities. Also, Devils lake State Park is on the outskirts of Baraboo and the trackage goes right along the shoreline with dramatic cliffs rising from the lake. The track also goes right through the campground there. Farther down the line is a really interesting bridge that crosses the Wisconsin river. Along side the bridge is a car ferry(free to this day) that shuttles cars back and forth across the river.

I think it was part of the Chicago and Northwestern line. But I would imagine the Milwaukee Road was prevalent in the area also. Only research I’ve done is personal observation.

Thanks Jim,

Red Wing does sound interesting.

  • The name sounds good

  • Elevator and two mills = lots of covered hoppers

  • MN is where a lot of swedes emigrated in there in the 19th century, so there is a connection

  • I have two friends that like “window trains” and both of them have Hiawatha sets

  • CGW famous for their covered wagons is a nice connection.

I found some pictures on Railpictures.net from Red Wing most of them modern.

Do you know where I can source more information on Milwaukee Road in Red Wing ?

Hej Bertil —

Have a look at this thread - contains quite a few links to aerial photos from the Minnesota Historical Museum and such like: http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/p/163113/1796198.aspx

Smile,
Stein in Norway,
Modeling urban switching in Minneapolis in the late 1950s

Tusen Takk Stein,

Those pictures where great.

Urban switching in Minneapolis also sounds interesting.

I should have a set of ‘Station Maps’ for Red Wing, or I can at least email you a diagram of the trackage.

Jim

Well, I got a pretty small layout room (about 200 x 355 centimeters - 6.5 x 11.5 feet), and I wanted H0 scale, so I decided that an urban switching layout gave me the most bang for the bucks.

Wife’s from Minnesota, and we spend a month there every summer - so it was kinda natural to go for the Twin Cities.

This is my track plan:

Layout is still blue foam, though - some recent images:

Short train pulling up the ramp from the river barge terminal:

Coal barge at barge terminal:

Parts of the warehouse district taking shape, team track to the right - mill elevator beyond road overpass:

Tracks by the mill (GN car on elevator track, tank car at a holding track):

Still lots to do. I hope to get the main line around the room powered up this weekend - we’ll see how cold my layout room is in the morning - took a couple of hours today before my heater/fan warmed up the

Thanks Jim,

That sounds good. I will send you a PM with my e-mail details.

Nice Layout Stein,

Got about 30% of that in my train room so I can do some switching. We are forming a new modular group in Sweden. We are following FREMO-US standards. You are not that far from us so you might join in at some time.

Sounds interesting - where in Sweden are you at ?

I know there has been some discussion about FREMO US vs Free-Mo over here in Norway too, but I am uncertain about the current status.

Btw - have you seen Wolfgang Dudler’s web page ? He is doing a Minnesota based railroad too - the protolanced Westport Terminal, which is located in the imaginary town of Westport, MN.

And he is into FREMO US in Germany.

Here is a link to his web page: http://www.westportterminal.de/

Looks to me (unless my high school German is failing me totally) like the FREMO US modular standard that Wolfgang describes is single track western US (arid climate) in the 1950s-1970s.

Smile,
Stein

Most of us are in the Stockholm area. Even if I´m living 100km west of Stockholm(Enköping). Most of our group are also members of MMM(Mälarmodulmöte) a modular club with a very open mind, we have modules of Swedish,German and US prototypes all mixed together. Some of us wanted to focus on a more strict US practice and we started a new group following Fremo US standards (With some minor adjustments).

And, Yes FREMO US (and our swedish adaptation) is very much inclined to South western US. I will have “burnt grass” in the ends of my modules. One of the adjustments that we have made in our standards is that we canceled the time specification.

An update.

Red wing will be built but at a later date. I will begin with a few modules based on the Beer Line in the seventies. Based on.

  • Lots of switching in a relatively small area
  • FM Switchers replaced by
  • MP15
  • Transfer runs with F-units
  • Lots of covered hoppers

Any information on the Beer line would be nice. If anyone have the mrha Beer Line Book for sale I´m interested.

As for Red Wing. I have started the planning and information gathering.

Plymouth WI where the Milwaukee Rd and Chicago & North Western had side by side depots, and their lines crossed protected by an old fashioned smashboard, was written up not long ago in the magazine of the Milwaukee Road Historical Assn. Go back far enough and there was also an electric line next to them as well.

Just about every issue of the MRHA’s magazine would have ideas

Dave Nelson

This may not be for the modeling preferences in this thread, but I noticed that the big Milwaukee station kit and the extra train shed extension kits are at a significantly reduced price right now, if anyone is interested in them.

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-2943

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-2949

I joined the MRHA a few weeks ago so that sounds promising. Antd thanks for the tip on Plymouth. I will look in to that.