Modeling ATSF crane #199774 (pics needed)

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Hello, this is my first post here. I model the Santa Fe in H.O. scale from about the end of W.W.II to 1951.
Right now I am making crane #199774 from a Gould Company 120 ton steam wrecking crane kit.
I am in need of some pictures of the left, and back side. I have the book on Work Equipment cars by the SFRHMS. That has a great pic. on page 78 of the right side.
The instrucions that came with the kit has an excelent pic of the rear, but it so small and grainy that no info can be had from it.
I kind of thought about just modeling it as I think it should be, [:p] but decided to post this here hoping that maybe someone has some good pics of this unit.
I would also like to see more of the tender behind this crane, all shots of it only include a very, very small portion of the tender.

Thank you, LeRoy

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well its all about looking about pictures on the internet diagrams are immportant too and if it looks real YOUR GOOD!!!

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LeRoy,
I did a Google search. Turns out that Bachmann has a model in N scale:
http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/bac/bac46612.htm
http://www.bachmanntrains.com
Perhaps the details on it, at your local hobby store, will provide the information you need. Also, you might find something useful at the fallen flags site:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org
Or, if you know who manufactured the prototype crane, perhaps the NMRA’s Kalmbach Memorial Library:
http://www.nmra.org/library/
can help you. Their rates are reasonable, even if you’re not a member.
Bob
NMRA Life 0543

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I too am modeling this hook. I found this reference on one of the ATSF historical sites. I can’t post the URL because this frame system won’t allow paste. I do have the files on my computer & they are at City of Orange (localhistory.cityoforange.org). Lately all the pic links are broken; you might have to e-mail them nicely & ask them restored or fixed. The catalog sequence is; Transportation, Railroad cars, Railroad accidents, Mc Pherson St–Orange [Calif.]. Number 199774 is there in all it’s glory. The wreck was in 1956 & the pics are in color slide form, probably Kodachrome because they aren’t faded to blue & a little red. I don’t have all of the pics but I think I would be legal to E-mail what I have to you since this is a public collection. If by left side you mean facing the front of the train (your back to the train’s end) they would be on your left hand then the pics are of the left side. Would appreciate any good pics you have in return.
Also Orange Empire Railway museum was supposed to have this crane in their collection (according to the instructions on my old Demi Trains kit). Now it is not on their roster at their web site. Don’t know quite what to make of that.
The ATSF site is called Q Station.

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I have the following references to ATSF derrick 199774 in my reference file…

Santa Fe Modeler March-April 1981, p.6,7,10,18.

Redetailing Dimi-trains N scale kit to ATSF 199774 Santa Fe Modeler Jan-Feb 1981 p.9

Santa Fe Modeler 3rd Quarter 1987 p.9

plus the Work Equipment book already mentioned

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try www.rr-fallenflags.org for more infornation

tom