I have looking for pictures for a Santa Fe 4-8-0 loco. I know they had only 9 of these. I would like to know the boiler dia., driver wheel size and over length.
Thanks for any helpful tips,
William
I was reading about the Santa Fe in the 1860’s-70’s when the railroad was just a short line. It would be interesting to model, there is only three towns; Topeka, Carondale, and Burlingame. The basic theme is hauling coal and passengers. It would easy, and fun build in a 4 by 8 or a small walk around type layout. Can add a interchange track with the Kansas Pacific R.R. They buy coal from the Santa Fe Also.
You might try to find the book Iron Horses of the Santa Fe Trail which, IIRC, has photos and possibly a diagram. Watch this space for bibliographic information.
Hello William,
From “Iron Horses of the Santa Fe Trail”: The 631-class 4-8-0s, engines 631-639, were built in 1881 by Rhode Island for the Atlantic & Pacific RR and acquired by the Santa Fe in 1890. They had 55"-diameter boilers, 46"-diameter drivers, and an overall engine and tender wheelbase of 49’-10". The dimensional diagram doesn’t give the overall length from tip of pilot to coupler pulling face, or of just the locomotive or tender. These were small engines by later standards, with an engine weight in working order of only 60.5 tons.
“Iron Horses” includes three Phil Middlebrook photos from 1916-17 showing 631-class engines in switching service (pilots replaced with footboards, no class lights or number boards) at Bakersfield and Richmond, California. All were off the roster by about 1924.
And by the way, thanks for signing your name.
So long,
Andy
Andy
Thanks for the imformation, I have been a ATSF fan for as long as I can remember. When I was small we lived near a branch line, I still can see those mineral red cupola cabooses. And I can remember those war-bonnet F7’s, those were the days.
Thanks again,
William
You’re welcome, William. - Andy
MDC is now manufacturing 4-4-0 steam locos for the Santa Fe, that with the 2-6-0’s and 2-8-0’s. Of course Bachmann’s new 4-6-0’s, 2-10-0’s, and the later model version of the 2-8-0’s which are very good models. With MDC early freight and passenger cars, Labelle Models; rolling stock, and Westerfield gives plenty of variety to a lay out. The buildings are very plentiful too; as likes of Campbell, DPM, Walthers, and so many others. It be so easy to put alot of action in a small or medium size lay out in a early steam era theme.
William Persinger
Not exactly early 1900s but Model Die Casting has metal steam locos in HO that are true Santa Fe prototypes, or at least very close. The 2-6-2 is a neat enigne I think.
Dave Nelson
The 2-6-2’s are not a true Santa Fe, but they are very close. The proto type has a straight boilers. The 1000 class has 70" dia. biolers and Drivers, outside 79", dia. of center is 72". The lead and rear (trailling) truck are spoke wheels. It was delivered with a tender just the ones on the old timers like 2-8-0’s. You can go to the website at http://atsfrr.net/resources/Baldwin/index.htm
You Santa Fe guys should keep an eye out for BLI. Their list of engines they anticipate inludes an ATSF 4-8-4. Some of their engines I think are ho hum. Their PRR T1 exceeds anything ever done IMHO. I think the ATSf engine is due next spring.
I would like to see a plastic/ die cast photo typical of the HO Valley Flyer and soon Broadway Limted is making the 4-8-4’s in 3751 class Locomotives.
William,
You might be able to get info on a 4-8-0 from the Strausburg Railroad. When I was there in the 1997, I rode the line to Paradise, PA (6 miles). The head end power was a 4-8-0. Check with them.
-Scott
Thank you Scott ,I will look in to it.
William
The IHC’s 4-4-0’s has large flanges so that it can not run on anything but code 100 track. That isn’t very good for running on proto type rail. But the MDC Roundhouse 4-4-0’s can run on 83 code track very well and I am very pleased with them.
William
I have looking for pictures for a Santa Fe 4-8-0 loco. I know they had only 9 of these. I would like to know the boiler dia., driver wheel size and over length.
Thanks for any helpful tips,
William
I was reading about the Santa Fe in the 1860’s-70’s when the railroad was just a short line. It would be interesting to model, there is only three towns; Topeka, Carondale, and Burlingame. The basic theme is hauling coal and passengers. It would easy, and fun build in a 4 by 8 or a small walk around type layout. Can add a interchange track with the Kansas Pacific R.R. They buy coal from the Santa Fe Also.
You might try to find the book Iron Horses of the Santa Fe Trail which, IIRC, has photos and possibly a diagram. Watch this space for bibliographic information.
Hello William,
From “Iron Horses of the Santa Fe Trail”: The 631-class 4-8-0s, engines 631-639, were built in 1881 by Rhode Island for the Atlantic & Pacific RR and acquired by the Santa Fe in 1890. They had 55"-diameter boilers, 46"-diameter drivers, and an overall engine and tender wheelbase of 49’-10". The dimensional diagram doesn’t give the overall length from tip of pilot to coupler pulling face, or of just the locomotive or tender. These were small engines by later standards, with an engine weight in working order of only 60.5 tons.
“Iron Horses” includes three Phil Middlebrook photos from 1916-17 showing 631-class engines in switching service (pilots replaced with footboards, no class lights or number boards) at Bakersfield and Richmond, California. All were off the roster by about 1924.
And by the way, thanks for signing your name.
So long,
Andy
Andy
Thanks for the imformation, I have been a ATSF fan for as long as I can remember. When I was small we lived near a branch line, I still can see those mineral red cupola cabooses. And I can remember those war-bonnet F7’s, those were the days.
Thanks again,
William
You’re welcome, William. - Andy