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Svein!! Nice website I could learn to read Norwegian with that. Sorry I don’t like to make comments about layout plans. I admire your skill with the computer in making them though.
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The basic layout looks a lot better. This is a much better use of space. A walk-in plan is prefferable, but this is still an improvement. The duck-under could be a pain in the posterior, but other then that…
Any particular reason for the three parallel tracks on the left? I’m not suggesting that they shouldn’t be there or anything, I’m just curious as to what the thought behind it is, that’s all.
As for the rest of the designing, the last thread you had gave you some great links to reading material. Read it before you go on and your design will be a big improvement over the last one. You’ll look back on the last one and see just what everyone was talking about.
And BTW, never forget, we’re all still learning here. Nobody knows it all, so don’t be afraid to ask questions, OK?
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That all sounds real good, and on-stage staging is a doable thing. If it’s well sceniced it’ll hardly be noticed as being staging.
One way to do this might be with lots of greenery, but an easier way would probably be to have a city scene with lots of buildings and then a row of flats that the trains-in-waiting hide behind until they roll out on stage. Done right, it would be very convincing!
As to the station thing, that’s a personal preferance.
If it were me, I’d say to make the most of the staging and just have one station. Then I’d have a small local that works the yard and delivers to some of the local businesses. Trains would apper to come from somewhere, drop off and pickup cars set out by the local, then continue on their way to somewhere else. Then the cycle repeats. The local might only be able to switch enough cars for one train at a time, or they might get up on it and have cars ready for more then one train so that the big trains could show up close to each other, or at the same time. That would keep everyone hopping. Kind of like the ultimate railfan layout in that you get to follow the local around, but the big trains come and go like you see in the real world. But that’s just me…
“The tracks along the left wall is intended as a small staging yard, I planned to hide it behind a low treecovered hill but as it turned out there is probably not enough space in front of it. Anyway, this was the only place I could find to stage my trains away from the stations without using hidden tracks (and hidden turnouts, which apparently is not a very good idea…)”
Svein:
You may have hit upon the solution without realizeing it [:)]. You can hide the staging tracks behind a tree covered hill or behind a row of buildings – assumming that I am reading your plan correctly and am not sure that I am!
Simply reverse your elevations – what is high, make low and what is low, make high. In other words, make the staging tracks by the left wall low and the isle tracks high, crossing over the other tracks instead of going under them. The front tracks arre then a screen or buffer blocking the rear staging tracks. Could that work for you [?]
Just an idea.
Hey Pennsy, that’s not bad! That just might do the trick. Hiding those staging tracks would be easier that way.
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I think I like the over-under one better, but some of the ideas from the new one can be incorporated.
And don’t sweat the plan changing too much, as long as it’s moving the right direction. My plan changed quite a bit along the way through the planning stage.
Hello Svein, The new design has a lot of switching possibilities; but, I do like the previous design much better – it is very creative and interesting. You can always add yards and sidings to the plan for switching possibilities. [:)]
Any chance you could give us an English translation for your Avatar – “Fikk bare lyst til å skrive noe på mitt eget språk…:-)”
GP
Pennsy-GG1
I like your plan (another one) and immediately figured out the staging.
The yard might be improved, though. It seems space is wasted and the yard lead does not connected back to the track. I would probably reverse the direction of the yard and reconnect the lead to the A/D track.
Also, you have an industry off the yard lead. If you leave a car there, you cannot switch the yard very well. IF you left the industry out, you could easily add another classification track. This would add greatly to your operations–at least in the yard.
Lastly you have a lot of space behind the layout on the top. If you placed the yard back there you would have a lot more room. The industry could move to the inside. If you like the way it is set up now, you might consider moving everything back toward the wall. 80 cm is a long reach and you really don’t need that wide a table there.
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Complex trackwork should always be in the open. If not, you’ll regret it.
Svein:
Det er virkelig fint. [tup] Du fikk meg. [(-D] JEG til slutt husket for oversettelsen web side valgmuligheten. Ønske du det best med din layout planer. [swg]
GP
PennsyGG1
P.S. Hope that translation page is really accurate and doesn’t create an insult or international incident!! [:I]
P.S.S. To the others – there’s train stuff included in the above note. Really! [:D]
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Svein:
Sorry for the delay. My schedule has been hectic recently.
I really like what you have done with the plan – you took my basic suggestion [8)] and really embellished it [8D] ! I like your idea of the double crossover – it adds a lot of operational possibilities; plus personally, I like complex track work out in the open that way – it adds a lot of realism and viewer interest. [2c]
You could possibly lengthen the staging yard by moving the upper switch back one section (upper left of plan) and use a curved turnout on the last curved section (assuming that your track manufacturer makes one.) I know, I know some people say not to use curved turnouts because of potential problems-- but they are made and they do create more siding length. When installed carefully and correctly they can be effective. If it is available why not use them?
It is going to be a matter of personal preference for what you want your railroad’s theme, purpose, and industries to reflect as far as the various uses for the sidings and yards. [tup]
Regards,
GP
PennsyGG1
P.S.: [#offtopic] In reference to the previous post – No, unfortunately I don’t speak, read, or understand Norwegian [
] – I am, embarrassingly, just a typical mono-lingual American. Yes, I used a translation web site and forgot to bookmark the site [:I]. I’ll post the link for you as soon as I can find it again and make sure it will work. By the way your English grammar usage is excellent [tup] – top notch – top draw – Better than a lot of us natives [swg]. By the way, I’ll eventully get to work on “oversettelsen” or “valgmuligheten” – when I find that darn web site!! [oops]