Need ID for Steam Engine. Ives ? Marklin ?

Hi ALL!
I can’t tell from the poor picture I got what these trains are! My guess is that they are Standard Gauge?! My GUESS is maybe Ives? Marklin? Someone out there can tell from even this POOR picture!!

Many thanks!! Ted

You can find out what gauge they are by measuring the track, or the distance between the wheels. The items in the pic look very German to me, Marklin might be a good guess.

Definitely European…probably Maerklin but there was another manufacturer over there, too.