Received the box at noon - had to download new DCS software - but it was pretty neat to run! Film at 11.
Sounds nice Bob, how much did it cost? Your posting a video at 11 tonight, correct?
Ahhh, so its MTH. To bad Lionel didnt make it, then I would be interested! [;)] Good luck with it.
Grayson
Its a loaner for product reviews.
No video will be up till the review runs in the magazine.
The last time a product in the workshop drew this much of a crowd was the Lionel nuclear reactor back in 2001
Bob
It’s not a “dry” train is it??? I have a Jim Beam train that I been planning to do a review on. But everytime I get it down, and start checking out the detail of the cars, I forget what I got it down for. Certainly, a thorough review of a Coors, would HAVE to be done after 5 p.m.
Alas, the only liquid in it is smoke fluid!
Why doesn’t that surprise me?
Does anybody else feel uncomfortable about the crass commercialism that permeates the toy train hobby? I didn’t like it when Lionel did it 50 years ago putting “Baby Ruth” and “Bosco” and other commercial logos on their cars just to boost their corporate profits, and I don’t like it now.
Every year Coors spends millions in advertising dollars to entice consumers to buy its products. No media outlet would ever consider running Coors advertisements for free because, after all, Coors is a private business entity and the company reaps enormous profits as a result of the advertising it does. I’m sure Coors executives are pinching themselves with glee at the thought of having model train hobbyists, with MTH as the middle man, pay for the privilege of displaying their corporate logo. Talk about the mother of all advertising ploys.
Look, I can tolerate a company putting its own logo on a product that it makes, or even painting its cars with the colors of railroad lines, because at least those logos are “railroad” related. But when I see something like the Coors silver bullet train, which was created to mimic a TV commercial, I can’t help but feel that things have gone too far.
Let’s see, of the three parties to this transaction, MTH, Coors and the hobbyist who buys the train, two of the three are benefitting financially from the arrangement, while one ends up subsidizing the other two. Brilliant!
well a few years ago when Coors started the commercials there were a bunch of us standing around the water cooler and many of the comments were ‘that would make a neat toy train’, so I don’t have a problem with it. If you don’t like it you don’t have to buy it… MTH and Lionel are trying to bring new people into the hobby. This is why Lionel has NASCAR, and UPS related items. They also used to offer sets through Sears, ACE, and NAPA (if memory serves me correctly).
They are just trying to stay in business.
Hello edw! Back in the old days, when Lionel used Baby Ruth or Sunoco or any other Brand Name on their Trains it was in return for a fee these companies paid Lionel which they used for tooling & dies for their product line. When Lionel came out with the Santa-Fe F-3s in 1948 GM,Lionel,Santa Fe, & New York Central each paid 25% of the tooling cost for the F-3s & this helped keep costs down as well since Lionel did not have to use all of its own money for tooling & dies which also helped to keep the trains affordable as well. Take Care.
I agree with Brent, although this train is not my cup of tea, I don’t have a problem with MTH making it and those that want one buying it. Nobody is being forced to subsidize anyone here.
This could be a great drinking game, One Beer for every blow of the whistle!
edw - Partner, if you don’t like it, could you kindly step aside so I can get a better look…[swg]
Why? You would just block the view for the hundred other folks behind you! [;)]
Well no matter how that Coors train fairs in the review, it’ll never be allowed on my rail-lines, after all this is a “dry” county!
I guess that’s exactly my fear. That Lionel and MTH will overdo it and turn the hobby into a version of NASCAR. You know, with every square inch of the sides of trains plastered with mini stickers and logos. Here comes the Home Depot express. [:)]
I’ll drink to that, hickup!!!
laz57
My only response would be this…if that certain product finds its way into the hands of a newbie, then I’m all for it!!! This hobby needs to expand and encompass those that are new to the hobby and those who have “fallen off the wagon” so to speak (like that one? I’m here all week, thank you very much). This hobby can support alot more individuals and if crass commercialism is the way to nudge them into the hobby then what the heck! You & I don’t have to buy into it and that my friend, is the capitalist way.[2c]
Does anybody else feel uncomfortable about the crass commercialism that permeates the toy train hobby?
Wow!! UP, BNSF etc. are commercial enterprises. 97+% of railroad revenue is from hauling freight.
Now as a practical matter the Toy Train Industry is tiny compared to other manufacturing and it needs to link to as many hooks as it can to continue. So Thomas the Tank, the Polar Express and the Coor’s Train are important. If this hobby doesn’t find ways of infiltrating current fads it will soon go extinct.
The Chrome look is outstanding. Even I, who would paint anything into New York Central wouldn’t paint this baby into Cigar Band colors.
Grain Belt Premium, maybe, but not NYC!
edw, Fact is, that early on in railroading, they did have advertising rail cars. If you look at some of the old videos, you will see advertisements for “Swift”, “Armour”, “Tropicana”, and others. I don’t recall the specifics, but this was common practice until they regulated it out. I believe that the billboard cars add more variety to broaden the market. Many layouts would be plain if it were all boxcar red/brown and nothing else. You have a choice in how you want to build your roster. You can have plenty of different companies represented from different eras, or you can have a few actual railroads from a specific era. The one great thing about this hobby is that you can adapt it to your own taste. I don’t ever plan to have the “Coors” train or any tobacco or liquor trains as it is something I don’t want my kids exposed to. On the other hand, I have no problem with some of the other guys here having theirs with all the above. It is their own choice.
Dennis