New Haven EP-4 for less then 100 dollars? - YES

Just saw an interesting photo.

It’s a BOX CAB electric pulling a New Haven passenger train. It is in the McGinnis colors. Upper body is red, lower half white, front door is black. The body style resembles that of the New York Central’s “P” motors.

Photo’s a little blurry, but the first number below the engineer’s front window is a 3. Is this an EP2 or an EF series unit?

Thanks!
It’s not an E-33 electric.

Where can i see photos of the branford ep-5? And where can i order it?

Supermicha,

No photo available, which was the dilemma I had. They don’t have a website. However, according to the New Haven Railroad Technical Historical Society, Branford Hobbies is legit, and the model looks very good though not exact as it sits on a modified Athearn PA chassis. I believe the price is around $200; that’s not bad especially if you consider that the OMI brass EP5 sells for $794!!! Way too stiff for me!

The society did give this plastic Branford model a “thumbs up”. The EP5 is due this fall. Here is the info:

Branford Hobbies
609 Boston Post Rd.
Branford, Connecticut 06405

Tel: (203) - 488-9865

I called the manager and spoke to him at length. It’s a family business. Very friendly and helpful. The model is due this Sept/Oct. What I’m going to do is call him again in the fall and request that he take a digital photo and e-mail it to me. As a skeptical consumer, I still have to see what I’m getting!

Hope this helps!

Some mis-info here.

If you are going to be painting the EP-4 (or EF-3 depending on how you kit ba***he Brazilian model) you need Pullman Green - #13 Pullman Green to be exact.

There is no such scheme as “Hunter green and gold”.

There was a Hunter Green and Pearl gray pinstriped scheme but no gold.

The green-gold combinations were either #13 Pullman w/ #44 Dulux gold or #401 Exterior green with IMITATION Gold.

Also - yes, there were two New Haven EP-2 and two EP-3 boxcabs painted in variations of the 1954 Mc Ginnis scheme.

I’ve read a review of this in “Le Train” (A French model train magazine) - their general opinion seemed to be that it was a good, solid model. Detail would appear to be along the lines of early P1K (moulded handrails) but the pantographs are rather nice models - they don’t pick up power but are nicely modelled. Power is through two smallish motors (they look like the ones used in Scalextric slot cars, but with a flywheel added) but they seemed happy with the chassis. Basic directional lighting is fitted and while there’s no DCC socket the motors are easily isolated - you’d just need to desolder the pickup wires and solder the decoder in.

Blast me timbers… ANOTHER Captian Hornblower fan.

That was one movie that was pretty good. So are the C.S. Forester books.

Regarding the electrics on New Haven, there is a archive site with the movie about the New Haven Railroad in three parts. I will have to dig thru my own postings on this forum to find the link. But anyways it shows a electric hooking up to the Yankee Flyer for the run into NYC. I dont know if this Electric is the same as the model produced in Brazil.

Wow!

I didn’t think I’d see this thread again.

Haven’t read any posts from NHRRJ. I hope is doing o.k.

Ran into some financial spots, so I never did get an EP4 or a Branford EP5. This is still one of my goals though.

10-4!

Off topic I know, but have either of you seen the TV series version of “Hornblower” with Ioan Gruffydd in the title role? A very believeable rendition - I’ve not read the original books but it fits perfectly with what I know of naval warfare of that era.

railroading_brit, I believe I have. (Off topic I know…) I think I have read all of the orginal books and I think the films highlighted some of the more “fun” aspects of a time that was filled with danger, boredom, terror and death as well as abuses that would not be tolerated in today’s age.

Hi Guys,

long time is gone since i startet this topic, but i want to show you an image of my nearly ready EP-4. I closed the old doors and fans with styrene and putty, built new fans from evergreen styrene, and also some new doors. Well, its not absolutely accurate, but i´m very satisfied with the results at the moment…

Awesome job![wow][tup]

It looks great, especially considering what the factory model looked like beforehand.

Nice work.[:D]

Ok guys, i think its done. I added Grab Irons made of steel wire, weathered the fans to make them look a bit better, added beams and electronic boxex for the third rail shoes and seargent engeneering couplers…

I have to add some cables on the htird rail shoes and ladders below the doors, but overall, i´m very satisfied with the result. It looks very prototypically from the distance…

Very nice indeed.

I’am interested in NH’s ep3 & ep4 power units. as a kid I remember the units being hunter green & gold. do you have photos or models of commuter mu’s used in the 4o’s?

I recall that model builder and I was impressed. If I bought that model I wouldnt care and call it a re-import…

They have an interesting collection, love to see more of it available in the states

Actually they were #13 Pullman Green and gold.

212 Hunter green wasn’t used in applications with gold except a few instances - but not on the electrics.

Welcome to the forum and I look forward to hearing from ya - the more NH fans the better.[:D]

I have 5(five) v-8 each one with the name of a different brazilian railroad.It’s accurate on details and run smoth.It has two 5 poles motor on each extremitie witha flywheels.

Supermicha,

That is gorgeous, Blue Ribbon work!

Suggestion:
Take photos of it pulling freight and passenger trains on a model mainline and submit them to Model Railroader magazine. IMHO, hands down MRR will post those photos. It is likely that NO ONE ELSE has performed these types of “mods” yet. If so, it hasn’t shown up in MRR or RMC yet!

Work like this needs to be seen.[:D][;)]

High Greens to you.

Easy, visit Frateschi site, and see the models:
http://www.frateschi.com.br/
Evandro Ribeiro

The EP4 series were built by Baldwin/Westinghouse in around 1934-35±; beautiful motors, they were! Called streamliners, they plied the viaduct between New Haven and GCT. They werer thirty tons lighter than their sisters, the EF-3s, but every bit as ballsy. They did not make it to the sixties, typical Mcginnis stupidity. if maintained properly, motors could have survived 500 years. Consider that they were all electric, no fuel other than steam generators), so constant maintenence of diesel engines and associated equipment. Just make the call to the chief engineer at Cos Cob for the additional wattage, throw a switch, and voy-la-instant power. Nothing like 'em!

Road Engines:

EP-5s, EF-4s, one EP-3, FL-9s, and one poor unfortunate DL-109 got the "Mcguinnes treatment, making it look like Dumbo. The noble DL deserved better. An interesting thought: If steam had made it to the Mcguinnes era, I wonder how many I-5s old lady Mcguinnes would have dictated their disgusting colour scheme.

Rich