November issue

That DM&E article should get AG in a fizz!

It’s too bad Jim Wrinn’s “From the Editor” commentary isn’t a full blown article. There’s much more that needs to be discussed for the container’s 50th birthday. As it is, the commentary simply muddles the vast differences of ISO containerization vs domestic containerization when it comes to analyzing relative factors of “competition”, “truck vs rail” vs “truck + rail”, short haul containerization vs short haul TOFC.

In the whole “undercutting boxcar traffic” talking point, Wrinn mentions a paraphrasal of Marc Levinson in that railroads thought containerization was undercutting their boxcar traffic, when the railroads’ collective resistence to containerization was pushing business to truckers. If Mr. Levinson had taken the time to discern between international containerization and domestic containerization, would he have been so quick to discount the fear of undercutting boxcar traffic if the analysis was soley focussed on domestic containerization? Certainly ISO’s don’t undercut boxcar traffic - but one can’t use the same talking points when pertaining to domestic containers.

Hopefully Mr. Wrinn will be willing to devote a more in depth article on the relative effects of domestic containerization on traditional boxcar traffic/TOFC/trucking’s share of intercity freight, et al[?]

LOL!! It’s nice to know I’ve earned a place in your heart curly. Do Larry and Mo feel similarly?

Hmmm. tsk. tsk.

Is it that lonely out in the HateDM&E wilderness?

FM;

I’ve read your first posting three separate times and it reads like you slept through English Composition and Rhetoric in your freshman year. I don’t think you really said anything.

I read beyond the editorial page and noticed that the HO GP-20 performance charts were repeated for the Precision Craft N-scale E-7’s.

Well,perhaps we haven’t got the big party that the folks conspiring to put midwest grain farmers out of business have going, but we’re a tight knit bunch and we have fun.

And that’s what’s important, right?

But what color are the bridges out there? I mean-they are painted,right?

No Paul, that means he PASSED Rhetoric Class with flying colors. He can talk for hours and say nothing.

Well, no offense, but maybe you can’t discern between domestic double stack and ISO double stack either.

(I suppose you’ll have to read that one sentence three times as well![;)])

Since I’m not a rate clerk and I don’t have anything to ship by rail, it’s not that important to me.

Alwrite… somebody here is using some BIG words-- y’know, the ones ending in ‘ization’ and ‘ainers’ and ‘ing’ and such. And I don’t even know what language of english ‘et al’ is. Or freight.

So lets just keep it simple for us simple folk, ok? A con-TAIN-er is that old fridge out in the front yard thats got thes naybors dog in, now. stupid dog.

An International is a durn tractor-- not some consternization in some wild galaxy.

So "KISS "(for me, please)- Can It Seem Simpul.

Thanks and et all.

I beg to differ. What FM has to say doesn’t even rise to the level of rhetoric. Closer to gibberish or drivel…

LC

“Feelings. Nothing more than feelings…”

There’s a lot of love in this room.

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Looks like the elephant walkers are taking over this thread. I guess the ISO vs domestic discussion will have to wait for another time.

Perhaps Jim Wrinn will oblige us with a more in depth article in the next issue?

But it is important enough for you to take the time to post a response, albeit a response with no reasonable contribution to the topic at hand.

Typical.

Don’t fret too much, chessiewitch. Someday, if you apply yourself, you may yet rise to the level of rate clerk, or whatever it is to which you aspire. Until then, you can learn from the master.

Oh, boy FM, now you’re a master rate clerk…tsk tsk…what would the union say…

FOFLMAO…

LC

What’s to discuss? The domestic containers are set up to stack properly with ISO containers. This is one of the other advantages of the container over the full trailer, even if they are built longer, they can still be stacked on top of the shorter containers that the well cars are designed to handle. However, if the truckers start using longer trailers, you need different rail equipment to haul them. And rail equipment has a longer life than highway equipment.