NYC Rider Coaches

The NYC converted many coaches to rider cars for the crew on M&E trains. I think they were all numbered in the 27XX series, and were painted green. I do not think there were any two tone grey with the white color seperation stripes. I have several pictures and diagrams of them in either the NYC Color Guides and the NYC maintenance books on passanger cars through 1948. None of them say or show anything about the interior. I have kitbashed a branchlilne coach by blanking out he approriate windows, added fuel tank filler, antennas removed the top of the dutch doors, diaphrams and ect… but I wanted to put the interior bulkheads if these cars they had them. Anybody know if they had interior bulkheads added or not and if so were they added at the end of the blanked out windows.

Paul

Dayton and Mad River RR

Not being a NYC expert I can only speak of similar SP conversions, relocating structually significient bulkheads would have been avoided. Non structual bulkheads faced no such restrictions, SP had no quams about such intense conversions, when baggage cars were required-convert , too many dining cars and a shortage of chair cars. Convert, short on cabooses-convert, you get the picture, I doubt your converted chair cars, depending on linnage, possesed any interior partitions beyond those located near the vestibule area.

Best of luck

Dave

Dave,

Thanks for the response. I have found comment that many had two oil stoves in them and that would be in line with your thoughts. The stoves were located in the area near each end of the blanked out windows, so they probably needed two stoves to heat the entire car. It will be easier if I leave them the way it is, without bulkheads. Thanks again for your thoughts on the subject.

Paul

Dayton and Mad River RR

SP as well employed mutliple stoves, I model in S scale, and we have a baggage/combine model with vestibules on each end, decried as " too toy like" by most due to its freelance nature. I shortened my car 12 feet, blanked out the baggage doors, and as you did, removed the vestible doors and covered select windows. This particular example is destined for caboose use. SP, on these conversions also swapped out 6 axle trucks for 4 and mine follows that practice too, my second model will retain the baggage doors with yet a different window arraignment with the addtion of a small RPO section as per a specific prototype for my mixed train service, there were 72 foot examples, no cutting required on this one or roof modifications as these were aquired second hand during the EP&SW merger and do not have the arched roof.

Dave

I have some interior photos I can scan. Contact me off the list.