I just read in the railroad news section of this site that Ohio’s Governor elect just had a new conference today and announced that the proposed passenger service linking Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati “is dead”. Well, when the time comes for his next campaign I hope the voters remember how the traffic is and how long and tiring the drive is down I-71 from Cleveland to Cinc.
Hopefully they’ll shut down the Northeast Corridor next. The traffic on I-95 says that American the people do not want passenger trains. I’m still surprised taxpayers are still bing brainwashed into endorsing and funding money losing mass transit agencies… which is all them. If it can’t make money it shouldn’t run. Tell the those losers to get a job, buy an American car and drive. I’m sick and tired of my taxes being used to pay for ways for people to be laziness.
The Noretheast corridor is one of very few routes that DOES make money. That is one reason that Amtrak spend all that money to remove grade crossings and rebuild a couple of bridges.
Well, there go the airports, seaports, and highways. How’s your horse and buggy holding up?
Under what circumstances can several hours of freeway navigation be productive, in a business way? Have you traveled the NEC? I do, between NY, Philly, and WashDC on biz and don’t see many “lazy people”. I see many biz passengers like me, working continuously while en route. Yes, there are some passengers sleeping or reading, but, particularly on the Acela trains, they are the minority. And, if biz folk, they’ll be awake and refreshed, not stressed, at the other end. Frequent and relevant corridor service is a productivity enhancer, thereby boosting our economy. I’ll agree that corridors with cities lacking the public transport infrastructure of the east coast might not work as efficiently, since so many biz venues are away from the train corridors. OTOH, car-sharing (ZIPcars) and other innovations may make such distinctions less relevant in the future. If the demand appears to be there, the infrastructure to facilitate terminal-proximate transportation is in place, new services are worth a try, with a firm success/failure date.
Maybe the AMISH have something?[#dots] [li][st][banghead]
we had red devils running from cincy to lake erie but we gave that up for automobiles.when would the system hook into nw ohio? it’s a real political circus here in ohio.
stay safe
joe
I guess you don’t want your precious tax dollars being used to educate people on such matters as correct grammar.
Larry, best quote I have seen on this board in a long-time.[tup][tup] My sentiments exactly. Let the trolls merrily roll along behind their horse and buggy and see how long they last. [soapbox]
You sure that is not his Webster’s Primer?
Whenever a rail project is proposed in a state…the first line of the ‘anti’ defense is that it won’t serve every Podunk point in the state on day one therefore it has no economic value to anyone.
and the dummies fall for it most of the time.
US transportation policy is a circus, unfortunately it is a Clown Circus with no star quality acts.
Now that’s rich. A person from NY,NY saying that all mass transit that doesn’t make a profit should be shut down.
Perhaps that would be a great example for the anti mass transit people. Let’s shut down the NE Corridor and all the mass transit in the NYC area for 30 days and watch civilization as they know it collapse.
NYC and all it’s suburbs would be paralyzed.
Mass transit does not exist there because of the economic and population density. The economic and population density exists there because of the well developed mass transit system.
I want to watch the 7 million people who ride the NYC subway every day try to drive to their jobs. Then we can throw in the bus passengers. I want to watch all the people who ride NJT into and out of NYC arrive at the bridges and tunnels in their cars. Then I want to watch them look for a place to park. I want to watch the gridlock as the people who ride the NE Corridor try to drive instead. We don’t even need to worry about the environmental impact, because there just isn’t room for all those additional cars.
In order to compete with the third world, our economy is evolving into a lean, mean, just-in-time model. We are also being asked to embrace a new frugality as part of the sustainability movement, and as an acknowledgement that the U.S. has consumed more than its fair share, and must make amends. Frugality = green = hip.
Taken all together, the U.S. economy cannot afford the extravagance of driving off to a job every day unless it is a construction job or something else that requires workers to be on site. Ten years from now, most work will be networked, and most commuting to a workplace destination will be an artifact of the past.
And all that is made possible because we don’t manufacture much anymore.
The flip side of that “work from wherever you reside” model, is it makes it even easier to hire someone off shore to do YOUR job.
New York…
Sarcasm?
I should bloody well hope so.
But Gentlemen. It ain’t over till its over. I feel this thread and others are making pronouncements that will probably be true but actions are not set in stone yet. ie Amtrak, ARC, Ohio, Wisconsin, California, Fla, etc. Let us not jump to hasty conclusions. Be cautious please.
Exactly. If you can do your job from your desk at home, someone overseas can do it now for less money. At the rate and on the course we are going, it will come full circle, but at a terrible price exacted from our people (though the corporations will still find ways to make money).
And to Murray and RRKen, using correct grammar is something a 7th grader should know (or if you know how to use a word processor). A decent education is one of the resources that used to make this country great.&n
Me fail English? But that’s unpossible!
“Ohio passenger rail service killed by Governor elect”.
Get used to the above statement with the direction we’re heading now.
…And in other actions we’ll be seeing soon…
China and others are surging ahead. With the above attitude, we’ll start surging back to the stone age…!
Yes that is very true, but my point was that the act of commuting will be declining, no matter whether is it due to jobs going to the third world, or to telecommuting in order to compete with the third world. Either way, there will be a lot more room on our highways.