I asked this question on some Yahoo lists but no absolute definative answer so hopefully some of the UP fans out there can help. Just wondering if anyone can tell me if SD40-2 UP 4102, when it left UP for CN, was the bell mounted on the side of the long hood like in this picture taken in 1989 or were the put under the walkway before sale to CN in 94/95? http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/up/up4102amh.jpg
Others in the class that eventually came to CN seem to have had them under the walkway while still on the UP. CN ran them for a while in UP paint and did not touch them other than a black noodle on the nose and temporarly renumbered 6102 until they were shopped and repainted which is my plan.
Doesn’t get up before noon?
Post-modernist?
Post Mortem?
Particularly messy?
People manipulator?
Preview maniac?
Pizza mongrel?
Persnickedy monographer?
Pancake mauler?
Preventative maintenance?
Peculiar man?
Portaging mutineer?
Penny-pinching miser?
Since you’re from Nova Scotia, how 'bout…Provincial menace?
Well, Ric - guess you better tell us 'cause I don’t know either…and the rate I’m going, we could be here for days…
Very close. Let’s just say that having the bell in the wrong place would sadden me if I found out later that I was wrong. I like to have it right the first time.
I guess I would like to know if UP moved the bell before they sold them to CN or if CN did it after they bought them. Did UP have a rebuilding program where the bell was moved when units were shopped for some major work. I believe these were ex MOP units if thathelps.
That’s okay, Ric. I have a tendency to lean in that direction myself. (Forgive me if I went a bit overboard in my shenanigans.)
In some respects, being relatively new to MRRing (2+ years) has the blessing of keeping you ignorant (for the meantime) about the discrepancies between the prototypes and the models based on those prototypes. I’m still at the stage of marveling at the amount of detail that manufacturers are able to achieve, without the acute awareness if and where they have “gone astray” in their reproduction.
I’m sure that someone will be able to answer that question for you.
Incidentally, the name usually associated with a person who obsesses about the exact location of the drinking cup dispenser over the water cooler is - rivet counter.
Chuck (who doesn’t count rivets, but insists on exact compliance to the published timetable)
This is not a definitive answer, but it is possible the 4102 had the bell mounted on the side of the hood when used by the UP, since it was a MP unit. Anything is possible and I found a picture of another SD40-2 with DB’s on the MP that also had the bell mounted on the side of the hood. Manyof SD40-2’s had the bell mounted like that previously used on the MP, but not all of them.
Maybe someone can post a left side picture of that particular engine to help you, but there is a good chance it was mounted high and dry. .
In the picture below, the 6007 had the bell mounted behind the D/B, but other pictures of units with the D/B’s show the bell moved forward. I found most of the 6000 class with D/B 's had the bell mounted high.
See this is part of my conundrum. I see UP 4102 with it high in '89 and now here is 4106 in '91 with what seems to be the mounting plate up high and the bell under the walkway. Every other SD40-2 that I can find shows them low. So I am beginning to think UP did it and CN kept them that way after adding dynamics. I really dunno.
My first thought too but I didn’t understand why being willing to admit it might be shameful or admirable or anything else. After all, we’re all nuts, aren’t we?
I did it. I clandestinly climbed aboard many locomotives and moved things around in the dead of night. Bells, headlights, even the letter “F” on some units got moved higher or lower as I saw fit. Yes, I’m that evil and did it just to confuse PMers![}:)]
