Hi out there. Doesn’t anyone know of or have plans for scratch building an old time log buggy? I guess they were usually found behind an old Climax and in consist with a Barnhardt log loader. At least say no!!
Ray
Council Bluffs, Iowa
Dive about two hundred pages into one or more of these
http://books.google.com/books?q=editions:0Zhlk468Y7Kg88NV4_YiCwF&id=TM2UJlnLgl4C
You might also check out this book
http://books.google.com/books?id=U6UJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA3&dq=logging#PPR12,M1
Have fun
Since you are into scratch building, the below link should give you an idea of what the car looks. No doubt you can figure specs.
http://www.pacific-western-rail.com/view_product.php?ProductID=90292
http://www.hartfordpr.com/k01.htm
I am assuming you want to model the log cars that the Barnhart loader would travel on while loading the cars.
rich
This place sells kits in HO scale, but they’re out of stock right now. Maybe you could contact them and find out if they plan on getting them back or maybe who their supplier was.
Ray: The first question is how old time is old time? 1870’s, 80’s, 90’s, eatly 1900s, post WWI, etc? Most logging outfits were notorius for using anything that came to hand, or could be cobbled up from materials on hand. All equipment was used until it simply couldn’t be repaired anymore. In other words this subject is a scratchbuilder’s dream as you have a lot of leeway and can work in those busted/fixed details so dear to model railroaders.
Almost all logging outfits would have had some flats kicking around, and these would have been some of the earliest type cars used for transporting logs. The advantage of flats is that they can haul cargo other than logs, such as sawn lumber, supplies, equipment, rails, and even loggers if you get down to it. Early cars would have had wood underframes, mostly with two to four truss rods, tho some were built without truss rods. Post WWI you might start seeing some steel underframe equipment, but they would be pretty scarce until realitively modern times.
My 1888 car builder’s dictonary shows several purpose built log car, both of the buggy and skeleton type, all about 20 feet in length. These were all wood construction, with no truss rodding. By 1900 steel was coming into use for frame members, both on the buggies and skeleton cars. Many outfits would have run into the early 20th century w/o airbrakes on the equipment, and link and pin couplers were retained on some non-interchange outfits till the end
A barnhardt log loader or similar would have been pretty fancy equipment; most older or smaller outfits would have used cables to parbuckle logs onto cars, the power being supplied by ox team, horses, donkey engine, or even the locomotive itself. It’s your choice of course, but all of the spars and cable rigging of a elaborate loading setup can make a real show.
Also keep in mind that as dear as the geared loco
Yes Jim, This helps a bundle. I am doing a free lance logging operation and the time frame will not be too important to me, just old timey.
Thanks again for the info.
Ray
I found these interesting logging artifacts. This is located in Tacoma WA at Point Defiance Park. These are all the photos I have so sorry I cant give you any more. I hope they help. The last 2 photos tell you about the skidder.
