One Story Buildings in HO.

Okay.This has been one of my pet peeves for quite a while now:
Why Aren’t There More One Story Buildings in HO??!!

Now keep in mind I’m not talking about wooden buildings

like American Moddels and Blair Line make.

I’m talking about one story business on Main Street!!!

As far as is known,only City Classics*(*Supermarket);

Imex*(Center State Bank)and Heljan(*Woolworths)make any!!

Drive through any town and you’ll see a mixture of both one and two story buildings!!
Now come on DPM and Smalltown USA!!
Make some one story buildings!!

John T.Patterson

I feel your pain. I think it has to do with taking up too much space which is something that people’s layouts usually don’t have too much of.

John, you need to look a bit harder. For example, Downtown Deco has some single-story, brick commercial buildings. Look through a Walthers catalog and MR magazines.

Mark

What do you mean ?

One story midwestern main street small town brick boxes ?

Can be built easy enough from a few modular section pieces from DPM or Walthers. Or just from cutting up a couple of sheets of brick siding and putting a square box together with door and glass windows at the front of the building. Or you score and snap walls of two story buildings to turn them into one story buildings.

Doesn’t need actual one-story kits for that ? Should be possible to put something together here, without waiting for a manufacturer to come out with more dedicated one-story kits.

There are a few more one story main street type store kits available or on the way (and more one-story wooden home style buildings that could be turned into wooden store buildings).

Just by going to www.walthers.com and entering searching for “store” under H0 structures, I find a few more kits

Walthers builtup “Stuckey’s”: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-2853 (coming in feb 2010)

Woodland scenic’s “Daniel Outfitters”: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/785-220

Woodland Scenic’s “Ticket Office”: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/785-222

You also have stuff like Quonset hut type stores, gas stations or e.g. Pikestuff’s Auto repair shop: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/541-9

Pikestuff also has more stuff that can be turned into low commercial buildings of various kinds for a small town.

Like their “piping and mechanical contractors” kit (http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinf

Such one-story commercial buildings in a town’s business district are generally referred to as “Taxpayers” and were typically intended as place-holders until the local economy and demand justified constructuction of a larger, more profitable, building on the site. In many, if not most, places the boom never materialized and these one-story buildings became a permanent fixture.

Something of the reverse occurs for HO models of this type. A one-story commercial building in HO is quite small, yet it would have to sell for about the same price as a two or three-story structure, making the buyer think twice about his purchase. Such buildings simply aren’t viable these days, so they are largely absent from structure kit lines.

Probably the best appproach to model such structures is to cut off the upper floors of DPM buildings and add a new roof.

CNJ831

Giving it five minutes more for a quick browse through the kits manufactured by Walthers (as opposed to sold by Walthers), here are few more potensial small town one story commercial structures:

Miss Bettie’s Diner: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-2909

Southtown Hi-fi: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-2919

Silver Spring Bus Terminal: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-2934

Interstate Gas Station: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-3035

Al’s Victory Gas Station: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-3072

One could probably come up with several dozen such kits if one did a careful survey - in half an hour of looking, I have located 18 kits that probably qualify as one story small town commercial structures, and Mark has pointed out the Downtown Deco kits - their Adams Avenue part 1, 2 and 5 is rows of one story buildings, too.

Doesn’t seem to me like there is an extreme shortage of ready to build one story commercial kits for small towns these days ?

Smile,
Stein

I would point out that virtually none of the structures being pointed out here by posters are of the type the OP is referring to and I’m not sure just why posters are failing to recognize this.

The OP is talking about small to moderate-sized town commercial district one-story stuctures that are physically connected to adjacent, often similar, structures on either side. These are generally not individual, free standing, independent structures. Fronts of older examples are often partially of cast iron, or in later years, brick and are similar in appearance to the first floor of many DPM building kits (Lubener’s Store it typical of this). Numerous examples also have a common cockloft spanning several buildings. These are very common buildings in the eastern portion of the United States and probably elsewhere.

CNJ831

There are a number of buildings that we have up here that feature a kind of false front as well. I’d just buy maybe a Merchant’s Row type of structure and cut the thing down to a one storey size and leave one as a two storey. Another approach might be to take a few single storey buildings–something like 2 small store things that Model Power made up and fix them up and then join them together.

I know the single story downtown stores exist somewhere across the country but,I don’t recall seeing one in the small towns I have visited over the years.

Could this be the problem why there isn’t models of a single story downtown store?

Perhaps because some people seem to prefer to spend most of their time online complaining, while others prefer to spend it looking for solutions.

The original poster had found three kits of connected one story buildings.

He got pointed out quite a few more of that type of building (At least two of the Downtown Deco Adams Avenue kits consists of single story connected buildings - 4 businesses in Addams Avenue part 1, four more businesses in Addams Avenue part 2).

The two Woodland Scenics kids mentioned are exactly the type wanted - can be butted up against buildings on both sides. A couple more of the structures (the motorcycle repair place and Jim’s Repair shop) can also trivially easy be put into a row of buildings.

It may be “virtually none” to you, but to me it is 12 more businesses in addition to the three he knew about from before.He now has five times as many ready made one story row businesses available.

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The OP is talking about small to moderate-sized town commercial district one-story stuctures that are physically connected to adjacent, often similar, structures on either side. These are generally not individual, free standing, independent structures. Fronts of older examples are often partially of cast iron, or in later years, brick and are similar in appearance to the first floor of many DPM building kits (Lubener’s Store it typical of this). Numerous examples also have a common cockloft&

Does this help? http://www.lockeford.com/photos/lockpic201.htm

It’s a pic of the “downtown” of Lockeford, CA at the corner of CA 88 and Tully Rd. There’s a mix of multi-story and single story buildings. However, the single story buildings don’t always share a common wall with other buildings, especially out here in the West.

Another town that comes to mind is Mojave, CA, where I lived for a couple of years in the 50’s and drive through occasionally. Tehachapi, CA also has a mix. There are also small “towns” that are more an eclectic collection of buildings than a cohesive town.

For us Left Coasters, there’s also the issue of architectural style. Most kit buildings are more geared to the Midwest and East. You don’t see too many offerings for stucco buildings, especially those that have been influenced by the Spanish Mission style like this: http://www.lockeford.com/photos/lockpic010.htm

Alpine Models does offer most of the old Suydam buildings that are at least influenced by California architectural styles even if not replicas of prototypes.

Andre

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Perhaps because some people seem to prefer to spend most of their time online complaining, while others prefer to spend it looking for solutions.

The original poster had found three kits of connected one story buildings.

He got pointed out quite a few more of that type of building (At least two of the Downtown Deco Adams Avenue kits consists of single story connected buildings - 4 businesses in Addams Avenue part 1, four more businesses in Addams Avenue part 2).

The two Woodland Scenics kids mentioned are exactly the type wanted - can be butted up against buildings on both sides. A couple more of the structures (the motorcycle repair place and Jim’s Repair shop) can also trivially easy be put into a row of buildings.

It may be “virtually none” to you, but to me it is 12 more businesses in addition to the three he knew about from before.He now has five times as many ready made one story row businesses available.

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The OP is talking about small to moderate-sized town commercial district one-story stuctures that are physically connected to adjacent, often similar, structures on either side. These are generally not individual, free standing, independent structures. Fronts of older examples are often partially of cast iron, or in later years, brick and are similar in appearance to the first floor of many DPM building kits (Lubener’s Store it typ

Another good way of getting an impression of the main street of various places (as they look now, obviously) is to use http://maps.google.com, zoom in on the downtown area, and then dragging the little man out to a street to get a street view.

Not all streets in all towns has a street view - only those streets in the satelite view that gets blue edges when you grab the little man has street view.

Had a look at Lockeford, CA. It does indeed have quite a few one story commercial buildings, but not in the style the original poster were looking for - wall to wall businesses - the busineses along the main street in Lockeford seems to be mainly free standing structures.

Oh, well - I guess it depends on what town the original poster wants to model what buildings would be appropriate for his main street.

I picked a couple of cities east of the Mississippi river at random and strolled down what appeared from the satelite photos to be their main business district.

E.g in Albany, Indiana, I found one one-story building that was attached to a taller neighboring building, and six-seven that were detached.

In Milton, Pennsylvania, I looked at South Front Road, which seems to be a business type area. Same there - not a lot of one story businesses wall to wall in a row with taller buildings.

In Monticello, New York, I looked at Broadway. Same thing - most row type commercial buildings seem to be two or three stories, didn’t spot off hand any one story businesses in a row.

Doesn’t prove a thing, of course - a sample of three from among tens of thousands (or more) small American towns is statistically insignificant.

Having a lot of one story buildings attached to two or three story buildings is certainly common in more urban areas - say in Hmongville along Rice Street in Mapplewood, MN (a suburb of Saint Paul).

Looks like this :

However, the single story buildings don’t always share a common wall with other buildings, especially out here in the West.

Mojave, CA, from the air. As you can see, the downtown area does not have many buildings sharing a common wall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mojave-aerial-070909-03cr.jpg

Pelle Soeborg’s “Daneville” does a very good job of capturing the essence of contemporary Mojave.

http://aeve.com/digitaldesert/mojave/m01.html

Andre

Yes, the typical small-town businesses seemed to largely consist of two-story buildings with stores on street level and residences on the second story.

I did find this photo, however, taken of downtown Lafeyette, CA in 1941 which contained single-story buildings. (Mt. Diablo is seen faintly in the background.)

Hmmm, it’s time for a bottle of Coke.

Mark

This is likely too modern for what you are looking for but it sure captures the modern single story commercial center very well:

Summit makes this kit and lots of other modern era structures.

Summit Custom Cuts

For older eras, well there really are not too many out there. However one company that comes to mind that has not been mentioned yet is Suydam (present day Alpine Division Scale Models).

I model California in the late 1950s on our HO layout, and many structures in the Suydam line are perfect for this. The kit that best fits your description is the older kit named, Modern Stores. Unfortunately this has been out of production for many years. You might find one on eBay. Suydam on eBay

Another one that I really like, and have on our layout, is a Supermarket called, Ed’s Market

Well yeah,I left out Downtown Deco!!Mea Culpa!!

I’ve seen em’ and theyr’re pretty cool!!
I definitely need to get the Laundromat!!

And Randy’s Burgers or maybe the Strip Joint/Rescue Mission!!
I want to tiurn one into a Honky Tonk!!

BTW:I’m planning on adding an Operating Drive In Theater to my MP/Katy themed layout!!

Right before Xmas,I put a portable 4"DVD player in layaway at a local pawnshop.

At Best Buy,I saw a portable DVD player holder designed to fit in between the seats of your SUV/Minivan.

I plan to drive a couple of nails or some screws near the edge of the layout and attach the DVD Player and holder to them.

For the rest of it,I’ll use the ticket booth and fence from the Blair Line kit and I bought the Lightworks USA Limited Edition Drive In Movie Sign.

Now don’t that sound cool??

Hey Matt!!Yeah,I’ve seen the Summit MOdels Strip Center and all their models are perfect for a pike set after 1980!!

Don’t get me wrong,I think theyr’e cool!!Hell,I’d love to convert either their Lowes or Mini Mall into a Mega-Lo Mart!!*

(*Yes,I watch King Of The Hill!!LOL!!).

And I like how you converted Bachmann’s Motel into a two story motel!!Cool!!!

I’ve seen the Plasticville Models and I’ll admit with a little kitbashing they could make some decent scale buildings!!

I really like their supermarket!!!I think if you could scrape off the molded on lettering;throw the interior into the recycling bin and put some

styrene in the windows along with a few sale posters,it’d be a winner!!

Okay.Just for the record,I live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.And I’m planning on modeling either the MoPac and/or Katy

in the Austin area or maybe the old MP Line from Palestine to Buffalo at the edge of East Texas.*

(*My Wife grew up in Buffalo.Texas not New York).

Yeah,I remember the old Suydam Modern Stores kits.I wish I coulda bought some back in the 70’s!!

Anyway,since I’m modeling either East Texas or Austin ca.1959,some of AMB or Blair Line’s kits wouldn’t be

out of time and place!!

Anyhoo,thanks for your kind reply Matt!!!

John P.

Stein,

Yes,I’ve seen them all and for the most part they can all be used in nearly era from 1950-onward.

And at one point or another,I plan to purchase one of them.

Anyway,TAB for your reply.

John P

CNJ,

Thank you.You pretty much hit the nail on the head so to speak!!

Now I’m guessing by your name CNJ,your’e probably from or reside

on the East Coast.

Now I live in North Texas.(The DFW Area).Now most small towns in Texas,especially

in East and North Texas have quite a bunch of businesses in both one and two stories.

And some older two story buildings have had the second story covered over by aluminum siding

with the business name on the front.

Thanks for your reply.

John P