Oscar and Piker. Real, or a figment of Walther's imagination?

Were the Oscar and Piker (unfortunately I can’t find a link, so I’ll give my best shot at a description. They were two single-truck passenger cars, they had three axle trucks and came in a variety of roadnames) real cars, or just a figment of imagination of someone in the design department at Walthers?

the latter

OMG, flashback time. They were discontinued sometime back in the 70’s. I have the Piker. Yes they were a bit of whimsy from Walthers. No known prototype.

Walthers brought them back in RTR form within the last few years, and they might still be in the catalog. As originally offered they at least were a good introduction in how to build a Walthers passenger car kit. Of course the famous feature of the Piker “back in the day” was the girl in the shower.
Dave Nelson

These two, along with later items like the “jailbox”, the politically oriented cars, and others, were just a bit of Walthers’ silliness that first appeared in the 1950’s and continued to resurface from time to time over the next 40 years. None ever had prototypes.

As I seem to recall, the Oscar and Piker were originally intended to accompany some very small locomotive Walthers was offering about the time but I can’t remember just which it was (perhaps the cab forward Dockside?) and it’s too late tonight to go downstairs to dip into my reference catalogs in the layout room to see.

CNJ831

They are just sillyness, but everyone loves them. I have a set that I get out on the club layout from time to time. Any public present always notice them and comment favorably. When I leave them in the coach yard they always get included in whatever appropriate train is being made up. The dispatcher (a real hard core “realist” modeler) loves to assign them to the mixed local.

I just wi***heye made a baggage-coach combined for the set!

This isn’t true. They are still available in RTR. I purchased mine not more than three years ago.

They don’t seem to be listed in the on-line catalog - I checked Advanced Search, Passenger Cars - HO , using keywords Oscar and then Piker - nada… adding Walthers didn’t seem to make a difference (since that only restricts the search criteria further).

Always like them in the 70s Walthers catalog, and then kinda forgot about them till the re-release - guess the RTRs didn’t sell that well.

Similarly inspired my friend Bob Montag once kit-bashed a “pass-a-fridg-a-gond-a-flox”. You’ve heard of a ‘one man band’ ? Well this thing was a one car railroad !! You’ve probably seen a real ‘flox’ car in MofW service, a short section of boxcar occupying one end of a flat car. Well Bob decided to make a passenger-refrigerator-gondola-flat-boxcar all on one set of trucks! Looked pretty neat, but then again we were in high school at the time !
Mike

IIRC, they were last in the Walthers catalog in 2001 or 2002.

Hehe I’ve seen those cars! I thought about getting them, painting them up in PRR, just to drive the Penn Central guys nuts :stuck_out_tongue:

BTW, does anyone remember the furor over the PC steam decals in MR awhile back? Those too were “unprototypical,” yet they caused an uproar.

The ultimate for the space-limited modeler! [:o)][;)]

They are whimsy. They were originally produced in kit form metal in the 50s. Walthers had a run in kit form in plastic about 7 years ago, and I bought a pair. Nice kit. I didn’t know they were ever done in RTR, but you would still need to paint and populate the interiors.

After an extensive internet search I can post my findings on the Oscar and Piker Passenger cars. Zero, Zilch, Bop-kiss, Da-nada, Never existed in prototype form.

Somebody definitly had thier imagination running on overload when they thought those up.

http://www.all-model-railroading.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=049637810b44585b8a16d2562bdcee17&topic=1532.msg19534

For everyone who wants to see these dandy’s. Just scroll through. There’s a couple of pictures.

Kevin

You know it came down to a decision a couple years ago, an Oscar and Piker or a Kato business car in CP. Sorry Walthers but I chose the beautiful Kato, 80 feet of Burlington-prototyped perfection right there.

Cheers!
~METRO

I have a set I got off Ebay for $14.00 for both of them still in the boxes. I guy at the club actually has these in Brass.

I hope Walthers releases them again in diferent road names, because I missed out on the last run.

I think one of the model mags had some article about the Penn Central Steam decals, who knows, it shoulda happened buutt… you know…
yeh the piker was just a fun thing like the Dockside Cab Forward kit even adding a tender. But there really was an early small cab forward steamer.

Wow, the kits have aluminum or tin sides, but I’ve never seen one in brass.

I had both of them; kits I assembled in the 70s. They were neat from a craftsman perspective- well, compared to stuff available nowadays. I think the sides were tin; roofs wood, ends were pot metal. Maybe. But they were fun as heck to build!!

And who can forget the “Beer Can” Tank Cars??

Ian Smith