Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys please![yeah]
In remembrance of those who served and paid the supreme sacrifice protecting our freedoms.
They shall grow not old as we who are left grow old, age shall not weary them nor the years condemn, at the going down of the sun, and in the morning, we will remember them. “WE WILL REMEMBER THEM!”
Rob. Glad to hear you had a great time at the Downesville air display, those were a very nice selection of pics you took, nice shots of all those planes, was the Avro Arrow purely a CAF fighter plane? it looks a bit similar to an Avro Vulcan bomber. Nice shots of the Lancaster under restoration.[^]You are so right about making sure our youth remember the sacrifices our armed forces have carried out for them over the years. Hope you have a nice summer to make up for all that cold wet weather you`ve been having. Thanks for the laughs in the mail box.[:D][tup][tup]
Eric. It would be great to have some of that Pheonix heat over here at the moment, it`s cold and WET here just now.[:(] Those were some great pics you took of the Texas Eagle trip at RV III.[^][tup][tup]
Tom. That Marshall Uni team plane crash in that URL you gave was so similar to the Man United one, can`t remember seeing a flick of the Munich event at all. I think that BBC TV did a special documentry on it. We went to see the new Indiana Jones movie this afternoon, it was on a par with the other three in the action and sound effects departments, the ant hill part made my bride very sqeamish though![;)] “Force ten from Naverone” is a good flick choice&nbs
Good morning Cindy , always a pleasure to see you filling in [tup] just my usual the number three and the large thermos of BK blast coffee [tup] I do hope that Ruth is having a good weekend away [tup]
**Allan-**Thanks for printing the excerpt from the act of remeberance, always apropriate.
The Arrow was to be a RCAF project, all the production an funding was provided by the Federal gov,it and the Iroquois engines from Orenda ( another AVROE company )which were the frist production engine to develope 20,000 pounds of thrust a pair of which would have powered the Arrow’s. Only one Iriquois equiped Arrow was finished before black friday which was the first Mk 2 #206.Once they proved the Iroqouis on the test beds at Orenda France had an order for over 400 units to be put into their as then under developement Mirage 3 fighter.
The similarities between it and the Vulcan I would say are a reasonable jump as when teh project was cancelled Avro let go all 20,000 employees all of which were quickly grabbed up by NASA,McDonnell Douglas,Avroe in England and by the Consortiaum that designed and built the Concorde. Indeed the first moon landers design were headed up by the airframe guys that worked on the Arrow as well as the F102 for the US airforce,the aforementioned Concorde and only they know what else. There have been volumes of books put out on the subject teh stuff on Wikipedia is partially accurate,a really good thng to look for is the Arrow two part TV movie the CBC made three or four years ago starring Dan Akroyd as Crawford Gordon the head of Avroe Canada,it is the most accurate movie other than the building of documentaries that are out there.
Tom-Sooo black bags eh [?] Is that what they are calling them now [?]Your thoughts are as always dually noted
Greetings from Da Larsman and companion on this holiday - it’s been a fine weekend for us! [}:)] Hope the same for all of youse guyz! [swg]
Cindy a round on me, treats for the crittAHs 'n a LARGE jar of PPF for Boris - once he feeds the gang that is! Keep the change my deAH . . . Oh yeah, I’ll have a tankard of Schaefer 'n a Larsman special hero sandwich of ham 'n Swiss, mustAHd 'n buttAH with two extra large 'n crunchy pickles from the barrel. Almost forgot how good they taste! <grin
Sorry I can’t stay too long, but it is good to be amongst friends once again! [tup]
I’ve been checking out the pages since my last visit and of course have been enjoying all of the fine, fine photos put forth by Da Bossman, Wolfman Pete, Sand Swede Eric and TrolleyMAN Rob! Good job, guyz - really makes the place a bit happier with pictures! [tup] [tup] [tup] Then there’s the “stuff” from CM3 I’m NOT Shane! Can’t forget our WV Coalminer! [swg]
Especially enjoying the RENDZVOUS pix along with the DOME CAR views from Cap’n Tom! [wow] Terrific work and surely unselfish of Da Bossman to spend that amount of time to put those photos out for all to enjoy. 5-[tup] Salute to Cap’n Tom!
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Best to all, including Nick in Wales and Allan in New Zealand! Haven’t seen Dan lately, so I’m wondering if he got himself lost in Sherwood Forest?? [swg]
Quite a surprising Monday - first Rob shows up to fill the AM “slot” then at noon-ish along comes a familiar face, the Larsman! [wow] Nice to know that at least two of you are thinking of this joint during “doldrums time” at the bar. [tup] [tup] [tup]
Most appropriate Merchant Marine recognition from our Senior Manger ! [tup] [tup] [tup]
I’m always puzzled that after a “day off” we still can’t get the guys to come out for a morning visit. Even one foto would help! Oh well, you can lead a horse to water, but . . .
Okay - I was going to Post this earlier today, but thanx to Rob 'n Lars, I’ve been able to hold off a bit . . . don’t see any point in Posting atop another guy - best to spread 'em out - at least an hour apart. Keeps us “up on the Forum’s Page” that way. [tup]
Leon, I would like a ham sandwich. On rye! Yes, please.
It sounded like a cannon shot outside the house an hour ago. Very loud kaboom. After talking to some neighbors that complained they didn’t have any power I walked around and found that a pigeon had landed on top of a transformer and caused a short. “Kaboom”, the fuse blow, the bird was fried and the neighbors out of power.
Tom – Thanks for the info on the new Amtrak Modal Station![tup] No rush building it. Take it easy, but hurry up.[;)]
Eight photos!? I thought it was seven, but you are right, it is eight.[oops]
I am always careful when I visit the Mountain Village.[^] If nothing else one may slip on the snow and ice covered ground.
Force 10 from Navarone! A good movie butI think the original Navarone movie was better. But Force 10 is worth seeing again. The Natural seems to be a good movie as well! A visit to the Emporium is a must this week!
More photos from the snowy heaven![tup] Interesting rock, Percé Rock! I understand that you didn’t have a chance to walk out to it though.[:)]
Nice photos taken while we were waiting for the Texas Eagle![tup]
Rob – You must know all the girls at the Second Class Saloon.[wow] Yes, you are right, they are looking at one of the blondes. She was sitting in an open sports car, waving to them.[oops]
Interesting photos from the Toronto Aerospace Museum![tup] I guess the Avro CF105 is a twin engine airplane? Yes, I can see that on the shot from the rear. How many
Good evening Leon a tad slooow again today I see but there were a few bright spots.Just a Keith’s for me tonight. I’ve left a sack of loonies there by tilla for rounds on the morrow.
**Lars-**Good to see you mate [tup] I figured that you would have been “busy” with your visiter the rest of the weekend [:I] nice to see you however. Figured that you might pop in and you did with some fine fine posters 5x[tup] for that. I think everyone knows my feelings on these types of occations.
We did have the smilies paired by three apparently. Too many complaints[] So teh I’m with Stupid the “censored” one and the Dito one ( due apparently to the spelling mistake you should have seen the stupidity on a thread on that one over yonder[banghead] ) are all no more. Ahhh ain’t political correctness great 5x[tdn]
Any how it’s alwayys good to see you sir as your stool and favorite sandwich and brews always waiting [tup]
Tom-More fine photo’s from dabossman [tup] Things liklely will pick up again the rest of the week,this is the sloooow and steady forum at any rate.
Nice shots of Peirce Rock, I didn’t think you could get out to it as Eric asked or am I mistaken [?]
**Eric-**The Toronto Aerospace museum is small and hasn’t been around long 1999 I believe was their first year at least in the old Downsview airbase. The CF105 was
<From the StL Museum of Transportation - personal foto>
G’day Gents!
A Tuesday, which has the “feel” of a Monday which can only mean a shorter work week . One of those times when it actually felt like a loooooooong week “back in the day” for Moi.
Received nearly 4 inches of rain yesterday - basement is doing “its thing” once again!
All’s ready for breakfast - so let’s get a move on by starting off with a fresh mugga Joe! [tup]
Ruth is baaaaaaaaaack! [wow] [bow] [yeah] [swg]
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Received an Email from Fergie over the weekend - from the coast of Greenland. Said things were a tad rough ‘n that comms weren’t the greatest. He wanted us all to know that he hasn’t abandoned us . . . Thanx, Fergie! [bow]
Where’s Nick [?] Where’s Dan in the UK [?] and where’s Pete [?] Hope all’s well with all - most unlike the Wolfman not to send a “heads up Email” . . . which of course is what our GoR do ‘round here when absences are anticipated . . .
Good Morning Barkeep and all present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Raining a bit here today, but temperatures are where they should be - in the 60s.
Pete was by with pictures of Scotland and also of a whole series of scrappers. I don’t like “bone yard” pictures, normally, but there was an eclectic group of locomotives (to say the least) in your photos. Best part is always to read," On the way to running again."
Allan was by with comments and reflections. Some of us have close ties to Marshall; there is a memorial fountain on the campus dedicated to the team that was lost.
Lars (good to hear from you, sir) was in as well with excellent Merchant Marine posters.
Eris stopped by with “Land Between the Lakes” Budd car pictures. I expect to see that as a timetable cover on the Mentor and Southern Standard Gauge timetable once they get the printing press out of the second lake. Looks like we were taking similar pictures (what a surprise).
Rob was in as well with some fine rail pictures and comments and some descriptive material about the air show. The CF105 was a beast. I was interested to read of what happened to their workforce. F102s - remember them well as they used to fly over the old home place - VERY low, indeed. Interesting to see the Lancaster being restored as well - that kind of work is a labor of love.
OSP - I’ve been around a lot of sites over the years but never saw anything like that - I know, timing (and location) is everything. (lol). Nice Empire Builder book - if it is anything like the others in the MBI series, you’ve got a good one; cover picture shows my favorite consist for that train with E7s for power.
Nice FM cut you have been using in your posts, too.
Your comments re dogs are on target - they do run things as we all know. Reminds me of a doormat I saw once that said &q
Good to see the week beginning in normal fashion with CM3 Shane back in the swing of things . . . gotta admit, I have NO CLUE regarding whatever site you were referring to! Must be the CRAFT’s <can’t remember a “fargin” thing!> disease that Allan “spread” 'round the bar . . . [swg]
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #8
<Initially Posted on15 Oct 2006__, Page 137 of the “original” Thread>
Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with Classic Trains. Check this advertisement out (from The Official Guide of the Railways - 1956)
Great Northern Railway (GN)
Great Way To CALIFORNIA via the Pacific Northwest
Chicago-Minneapolis-St. Paul-Spokane-Seattle & Portland-San Francisco-Los Angeles
TOWERING PEAKS in Glacier National Park in the Montana Rockies.
Good morning Ruth , I see that your smiling and refrshed from your trip [8)] The usual number three and large thermos for me thanks. I see that Boris is still all a"titter"over Lar’s most recent visit. I didn’t think he was going to let him breathe with how big of a “Boris Hug” he gave him. Still Boris go feed the minions I can hear them scrabbling at the back door,once your done there’s a jar of PPF with your name ( well picture ) on it.
Tom- What you not speak the lingo ? [:-^] I figured that you could easily converse with the natives, what with all the sign language you know.[:-,] I iamgine that the tours of the Rock would be a bit on the to use the new vocabulary ( whatever ) side, it is after all a big rock.Still if the tour guides cute it might be a distraction for a while.
Sorry to hear that you’ve had to man the pumps again,here’s hopping you find a soluution that works for everyone and everything.Nice to know that Fergies still with though a bit on the busy side. I’m sure there are some good sailor haunts in Greenland though.
What can I say about your neighbour other than I’ve always said there is no cure for stupid,reminds me of a day that a lady came up to me on the 11th and asked my why everyone at the cenotaph was A there and B so sombre [banghead] on the upside her ten year old filled her in ( and forced her to stay there for the service ) There might be hope yet.
CM3- Yes those 105’s were beasts,I remenber seeing the odd F102 when we went up north. For a while there was a squadron of them at the Norad base in Northbay, you would see them going in an
Hey there Tom great add for the Great Northern, oh to ride the Empire Builder today as it was originally equiped and designed.That would have been a wonderfull route to experiance to be sure.Somthing to go along wth Tom’s Empire builder a bit from another railroad in that same vicinity.
CB&Q EARLY E TYPES
The next is some “stuff” on early CB&Q passenger power that I manges to glean from several wide flung articles in Diesel Era magazine, a good read if you can find them.
The CB&Q was always a big user of early EMD “E” type passenger units, used on most of their long and short distance passenger trains,the next is a few highlights of “E” action on the “Q”
In mid 1939 CB&Q picked up the first of EMC’s off the shelf production passenger locomotives E3 822. It was tested on the Twin Zepher the flexibility of this first stand alone ( separate ) locomotive for passenger service which they found was more practical than the articulated pioneer zepher loco/car combinations. The next E units they purchased were custom built E5’s ( CB&Q / EMC brain storm ) these were E6’s custom built with the flutted stainless panesl to match the Budd cars of the Zepher train sets. They also recieved speacial custom built truck skirts never fitted to any other E units built by EMC/EMD. These E5’s were built between Feb and March of 1940 6 A units and 5 B units. A-B sets 9910 A-B to 9912 A-B operated on the Exhibition Flyer while single A unit 9909 powerd the Aristocrat. The other two sets went to subsiduaries Colorado Southern 9950 A-B and the Fort worth and Denver recieved 9980 A-B. In late 1940 another single E5A 9913 was purchased to power the joint Rock/CB&Q Zepher Rocket.
In june of 1941 four more E5’s were purchased to diesilize the Chicago twin Cities Black Hawk. these were A-A sets 9914 A
Saw Pete lurking in the shadows . . . also appreciate the two-fer from Rob on this cloudy, gloomy 'n beginning to rain Tuesday!
Continuing on with Rendezvous III fotos . . . Rule of Six suspended!
NOTE: Off we go to Springfield, IL aboard the Texas Eagle - sitting in the Sightseer Lounge <car #33033> . . . Good day for viewing the sights . . . relatively clean car, but in need of maintenance, especially where the seat backs parted from the frames. Set-up dangerous conditions for anyone happening to grab on during the rockin’ & rollin’ . . . nearly sliced the palm of my hand on a sharp edge. Reported it to a crew member - didn’t appear to be “that” interested. Sorry to say, this is more typical than not in my experiences with Amtrak. But on the bright side - it was a glorious day for a good time!
“Our” Place Classic Trains Rendezvous III -St. Louis__, MO 2008 - Day Two
(82) Does this man look GUILTY or what [?] That’s PETE!
Good Afternoon Captain Tom and Company! I’ll take a nice cuppa of the hot Java please and thanks and might as well as fling in the Special! We Lost Internet once we neared the Greenland Coast then… we got caught off of Greenland by a Low, which wouldn’t go away so we hove to for 2 days riding it out. Mostly Gales 40-45 kts with gusts up to 50 at times. What struck me was the speed of the waves going by! Must of been influenced by the Greenland current which was making about 2-3 knots
Anyway we are free and clear of that MESS and on our way back to the Labrador Coast where luck would have it is another Low deepening (Oh Joy).
Saying that the couple of MR projects are slowing getting done. Both Jordan Erie Built Crane and Steam Shovel are built, just need paint and rigging.
Larsman: Nice to see you kind sir always interesting to see what you dig up from that Sea chest of yours! Well rec’d.
A round please RUTH[tup] for my absence yesterday[:(], was having a problem with the puter, got on to the Our Place page but it would not load up properly[sigh], kept getting stuck and it said ‘error’ on the e-mails[banghead], ain’t technology great some times[:(!]. Thought today was worse, as no Internet at first[:O] but after re staring it seems OK at the moment.
TOM Many thanks for the URL to Memorial Day.[tup]
Real sorry to hear about the basement[tdn] and the heavy rain there yesterday, we have had a fair bit here as well but I think the main lot skirted round us to the east
Many thanks for the great photos on the Chaleur along the coast and at Rendezvous III 5X[tup]. At least with the Texas Eagle running late we were able to see those 4 smaller UP diesels passing the station on freight and the weather was great[^]. I wonder where that wagon with the railway wheels on was headed for[?]. Great photos of us aboard the Eagle.[^][tup]
The rain Saturday was not forecast here and it did stop our yard work[sigh], I see that the Can-Am track maintenance took place while you were kept indoors; it was basement work for us as well over the weekend.[yeah]
As you say we have a lot to thank the preservationists[bow], who have spent a lot of money and a great deal of their time in saving and keeping historic items so that we can enjoy them.[^][tup]
It is a long time since I have seen Force 10 from Naverone[yeah]; The Natural s
A couple more photos from the Scottish Steam Festival 2000.
The ex LNER B1 4-6-0 rescued from Barry No 61264 at Oban. The loco had shared the summer steam hauled Fort William to Mallaig special trains with 75014. B1 class locomotives did work the West Highland line but I think 61264 spent most of her BR career at East Anglian depots. Spot the Tool box[:)].
On the longer legs of the steam tour our train was double headed with 75014 and 61264.
On the Inverness to Kyle of Lochalsh run, 75014 takes water and gives a photo opportunity.Note the Caledonian Blue number plate which some Scottish engines wore in BR days.
Customer Acknowledgments(since my last narrative):
Tuesday - May 27th :
Page 31 - CM3 Shane at 8:53 AM: All’s right with the world when CM3 Shane pops in for his morning “slot” AND deposits a roll of quarters for Herr Wurltizer AND springs for a ROUND! [yeah]
Spent a few hours watching the 1st disk of Band of Brothers - it’s really a CLASSIC ‘n most appropriate for this time of year. It was a gift from my youngest son several years back ‘n we watch the entire series at least once a year. A gud-un fer sure, fer sure. [tup]
Am familiar with the Buffalo ballpark setting for The Natural - always wondered WHY MLB didn’t locate a team up that-a-way. Especially once the Dodgers ‘n Giants moved west. Wudda worked, in my OH-PIN-YUN.
Do appreciate the fine < I3 > Post 'n your picking up the AM slack! [tup] [tup]
Not a bad day at “Our” Place as we’ve had some multiple Posts from two of our crew along with a suprise visit from another. All helps to make things ‘perk’ at the bar! [yeah]
My 2008CanadaRail Odyssey continues . . .
MORE fromDay Three: Saturday -May 3rd, 2008
VIA Rail round trip from Montréal to Gaspé aboard the Chaleur
Good evening Leon things seem to have been perking along most of the day [tup] Just a Keith’s for me this evening,I’ll leave some extra to help defer the costs of Pete’s should eb enough to cover one day of intrest on it.[:O]
**Pete-**A fine batch of photo’s sir. love seeing running steam up close and personal like that. I wouldn’t want to hazzard a guess at what the relative costs would be to redo a fire box on a big boy. My guess is it would be bigger than your bar tab. A few years back there was some discussion of rebuilding the CNR Hudson that is currently stored at the St Thomas Museum,at that point the rebuilding of the boiler alone ( including the removal of the asbestos and replacing it with a safer insulater ) was going to cost 1.5M CDN andother 500,000 for the mechanical stuff.CN actually though of doing it as they still own the locomotive,management changed and it’s still a nice static piece,by today’s costs I’d say double those estimates and that’s a lot smaller locmotive than a big boy[:O]
No that wasn’t grafiti just an awfull paint scheme.[V]
**Tom-**More fine photo’s from away sir 5x[tup] Love the shot of the tunnnel just behind the domecar [tup] Sad to hear of the indiffereance of the Amtrak staff,speaks volumes to the level of service provided by them anymore. Sad truly sad.
Just far to many JO’s who don’t care anymore and they are breeding more as we speak,hopefully though there are enough of us to keep the flames burning,some of the younger set
] So teh I’m with Stupid the “censored” one and the Dito one ( due apparently to the spelling mistake you should have seen the stupidity on a thread on that one over yonder[banghead] ) are all no more. Ahhh ain’t political correctness great 5x[tdn]
