"Our" Place IV - <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults 'n Classic Trains

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G’day Gents!

Good to see our Manager - and - Bar Chandler visit with us during the daylite hours of mid-afternoon on this Wednesday! [bow]

No, Sir Moderation - the Gazette “clip” was about Charlie Brightlite . . .

Specific comments in my next round of acknowledgments . . . [tup]

Here’s one for Eric as he makes ready for his trip to Sweden! Hmmmm, appears these folks are in the UK!

Continuing with fotos from my 2005 Dallas Rail Adventure with Dick Watkins . . .

Rule of Six suspended !

Eastbound to Dallas in cab of TRE RDC #2011

(19) Dave the Engineer

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G’day Gents!

As a departure from my policy of trying to avoid back-to-back Posts - we’re at a multiple of TEN - time to remind all on-lookers of the way we do things 'round here

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Well good evening gentlemen all-As I am just back from a couple of weeks away,I thought I ought to poke my head round the door,perhaps buy a round or two (Leon:-make it so #1) and generally act the penitant:-…



O.K-penitant only works for so long-Well chaps-am delighted to be back in my own bed-is lovely to visit and stay in touch,also to get stuff taken care of when needful but there is nothing to beat one`s own bed…



Will be right back atcha-but for now,this is me signing out…



[C=:-)]
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Good evening Leon, I see that Boris is grinning ear to ear ( or it might just be gas ) hard to tell with Boris after all . I’ll have a Keith’s at the far end of the bar just in case it is gas.[:O] Right a round for the house as well Leon , we gots to pay the bills .

**Nick-**How wonderfull to have our minstral and head [C=:-)] back. Boris was so happy that he baked a cake, however I would just appear to sample it, swallowing may not be advisable.Good to see you back and refreshed from your holiday,Boris was counting the “sleeps” until you got back.

**Tom-**Ahh yes our first multiple of bar mk 4,only five more to go More fine photo’s from Dallas.Thinking out loud I wonder if Dick even visits the forums anymore I’ve not seen his cyber name on it really since he left here.Hopefully he’s alright.

Lets see a few more photo’s to liven the joint up with.

The TTC’s only remaining small Witt 2766 used for the occational charter,seen here on Bloor street in the early 80’s

A recent shot of London 23 in barn three at the museum. this weekend the long awaited excavating of barn four begins as well [tup]

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G’day Gents!

Seems there’s been sufficient activity in daylite 'n darkness to warrant some catch-up acknowledgments! [yeah]

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Wednesday - August 20th :

Page 9 - CM3 Shane at 8:52 AM____: Our WVA slave to fashion made it in with some super-fine material on the NYCs passenger service between New York City ‘n St. Louis. [wow]

As always, a fine start to our morning, with a ROUND for the “flies” 'n quarters for Herr Wurlitzer! [bow] [tup]

Page 9 - Pete at 3:12 PM____: And enter the Bar Chandler with fare for all . . .

I’ve also wondered whether what we heard at ExpoRail ever came to fruition regarding that great film we watched. From time to time I’ve done web searches, hoping to find something regarding that steam presentation. Nothing.

Didjano that IMax had it’s orig

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Hi Tom and all,

Leon, the usual round of Tuis for all the guys please![yeah]

Rob. We are a bit lucky down here stormwise, but we do get the tail ends of some of the Pacific cyclones now and then, but we cant complain too much. Some very interesting info on those old RCN cruisers.[^] A very nice selection of trolley pix from you[bow], they operated some similar looking open tram`s in Llandudno, North Wales, from what I remember BITD.[:)][tup]

Eric. Fine pix of your PC den with all the pictures and plaques, a great workspace layout,[wow] and the Alco # plate. Have a safe and happy trip back to your old home country, if you see the ABBA girls`, Birgit and Freda, say a BIG “Hi” from me.[;)][;)][:)][tup]

CM3. Thanks for that info on your Dad`s job. Very interesting info on the “Southwestern Limited” car consist.[:)][tup]

Dan. A nice continuation of your Eurostar trip with the links to the Gare info and pix. Very interesting links to the canal and the RAF sites` with all the info and pix.[^] My bride and I spent our honeymoon in Hastings in 1961, we travelled on that line on the trip to Hastings, some more nostalgic memories you conjured up for me again, thanks for that.[:)][tup][tup]

Pete. Some more great memories of your Co-Op bike delivery happenings.[:)] Interesting to read that the coach was used in the G&I tramway as well as the Gateshead tram. Great write up on your Canny Coalman trip, all those familiar place names make`s me wish I could see the

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Good evening again Leon. Looks like you’ve had the busiest shift shift today.Oh well that’s what happens round this joint.Might as well have a top up.

**Tom-**Nice photo of the Rocket, Montreal’s first electric streetcar.To clarify 327 is the museum’s.The TTC requested we send it back for their 80th birthday parade ( which we did ) as they have done and still do a lot of stuff for us.

As a side bar if Pete can try then so can I.[:D]

**Allan-**Good to see you in again tonight [tup] That was a nice picture of the gang from Sweden that Tom found for Eric [tup] I think the open streetcar or breezers as some of teh US systems called them were a fixture on most of the bigger systems,espeacially if there was a body of water near by.They were the summer treat for the trolley passengers.I’m glad that you found those old RCN cruisers interesting.I’m sure that when the Australian and New Zealand navies were created that they got some help and old equipment from England as well.

Well since Nick is back here are a couple more photo’s to amke him happy.I’m sure that Tom will pant over the one as well.

A shot of GP 9 1604 in Cochrane Ontario with the Polar Bear express parked in behind.

Same locmotive this time in North Bay Ontario.

enjoy

Rob

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Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, tonight is the night for my favorite Rumpsteak Café de Paris!!! Yes, a cold Tui would be perfect! Oh, here is enough $$$ to give all the guys a free drink next time they show up.

Last night I can stop by here for a while. I am leaving Friday morning for the old country and will be back September 7. I’m bringing my laptop so hopefully I will be able to stop by a few times during my vacation, but I don’t have any dates. So, you better be careful, watch out for Vito, you can’t trust him.[|(]

Tom – Well, I still think you should go through all your slides. I am sure you have forgotten some of the good ones! [yeah]

You are correct about no place being 100% safe and secure. But we don’t want to sell this house (almost all paid for) and start paying on a new mortgage. But, as I said, if (when) we win the powerball we can buy the place we want cash! [;)]

I know there was more than one named train in western Canada, but I never heard the name Super Continental before.[:)]

They still build very long lasting locomotives and cars for the railroads. The oldest electrics in daily service in Sweden today, class Ma, are 48-55 years old, still going strong. The most common type, class Rc, were built 1967-1987 (same as Amtrak’s AEM-7). [:)]

Next time I get to Dallas I am going to take a ride in one of those RDCs. Very nice cab shots from your ride![yeah] Hope you don’t mind I adjusted your photo #21. Here it is.

**Tom’**s photo #21. A lot of details! I think he took this photo b

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G’day Gents!

And it’s Thursday - my, my how time flies, eh[?] [swg]

Breakfasts, pastries ‘n coffee are all fresh ‘n ready to go! [tup]

I see CINDY has come in early . . . she’ll be working Ruth’s shift 'til Tuesday . . .

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Wednesday - August 20th :

Page 10 - Allan at 9:10 PM <____4:10 PM Thursday NZ time>: Figured you’d get a laff from poor Charlie Brightlite’s plight in the booth! [swg]

Appreciate your comments regarding the Can-Am Train Room’s display cases - much of that stuff had been relegated to being box

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Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Good weather continues today - hard to believe we were under water last week at this time.

Rob - Lotsa PCC pictures - lovely! Also enjoyed the ON shots.

Nick - Nah! It’s a mirage - I think…

Allan - Good to hear from you as well.

Eric - Safe travels.

Pete - Employee trains in the U.S. were not just confined to mining. Many cases they carried miners or employees from home to the job site. It all depended on where you were as many mines in WV had company towns largely because of their isolated locations. It was different in other places where mines were developed after town were already in place.

“Canny Coalman?” Yikes - where did they come up with that? No Boris, it’s not the same as Choo Choo Coleman (I’m sure OSP remembers him). I would have enjoyed that tour as it covered a lot of territory.

NYC 78 was the “Paul Revere.” It carried sleepers from Cleveland, Cincinnati, and St. Louis to Boston, a Buffalo-Albany sleeper, and Pittsburgh to Massena. I know I talked about this one a long time ago here This last car operated via Utica, Rome, and Watertown; one of the more exotic NYC Pullman lines. A diner ran between Albany and Boston. Coaches operated from Cleveland and St. Louis to Boston. The St. Louis cars, of course, were handed off from train 12 at Cleveland.

Now here’s one for Rob. Again from NYC in 1950; one I would have liked to have ridden. This was a NYC-D&H-Rutland interline train.

Train 144 “Laurentian-Green Mountain Flyer”

Diner Montreal-Troy (D&H 34); Troy-New York

Coaches Montreal-New York (from D&H 34 at Troy); Montreal-New York (from RUT 64 at Troy)

That’s all I can stands, I can’s stands no more.

OSP was in with more study shots of track and signals.&

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G’day Gents!

Shane has been “in” with more classic trains insights! [bow] And of course a ROUND 'n quarters - his staple 'round here! More specifics in my next set of acknowledgments! [tup]

More from my 2005 Dallas Rail Adventure with Dick Watkins . . .

Rule of Six applies! Eastbound to Dallas in cab of TRE RDC #2011

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Good morning Cindy, always a pleasure to see you [tup] Just a quick belt of CR in the coffee thermos please. No Boris I don’t wish any of the prune danishes , who keeps ordering these anyway , Pete [?] the chandler must be having “flow” problems again, too much rich food as intern Governor General.

**Eric-**Nice fix up of Tom’s photo [tup] the two brunettes ( rearview mirror and out in front ) almost look related. they grow them well in Texas < pant pant > I hope that you have a pleasant trip , hopefully we do see you a couple times along the way , but if not no worries mate we’ll keep your seat warm for you . No Boris don’t put the blow torch under the stool ,[sigh] just go feed the critters .

Isn’t it amazing how long locomotives electric and otherwise can last depending on teh amount of care an attention.CN ran their EE built Z1a box cabs in Montreal for an incredible length of time. They were built in the early 1900’s and most were not retired until the 90’s. A few are still around as back-ups in case the newer EMU’s ( themselves ) almost 40 years old fail.

**Tom-**Another fine spat of Dallas shots.That Indiana and Ohio locomotive looks like it’s a ways from home though .I’d love to give you more phoot’s of the dome car but alas that’s the onlu one I have. I’m more of a motive power guy when I shoot photo’s. However Heather and I are concidering a run on either the Polar bear or the Algoma Central for our vacation in September. Not to worry it’s the last week of the month running into October,so I’ll give plenty of warning before we head out for the week.Perhaps Boris can build an infaltable robotioc version of me to keep an I on Pete.

**Shane-**I’m glad you enjoyed the

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Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please CINDY[tup] as RUTH is away on a few days break[swg].

ROB Thanks for the details on No. 327 in the parade on the TTC.[^][tup]

Although those other London cars could not be saved[:(] it was good some parts were able to be used for the preserved car.[tup]

Many thanks for the great photos from your museum[tup][tup][tup]. I did like the night photo; [bow]it is a rare sight nowadays to see the old vehicles at night. I think late is a great color scheme PCC #s 4000 and 4600 are in[^]. No 23 looks to be coming on really well in its renovation.[tup]

Great news about Barn 4[tup].How many trolleys will it be able to accommodate when it is finished[?]

Like the photo of Ontario Northland # 1604 with the dome car in the background [tup]and thanks for the CP photos, GP 9 # 8516 looks not to be in too bad a condition considering it is about to enter works[yeah].

I too don’t understand why the Prune Danishes have reappeared in great numbers again[%-)] not for me though; I use the real ale method of regulation.[:D]

NICK Great to see you back in the bar[^][tup]. Thanks for the round[tup].

ALLAN I can recall seeing photos of a tramway hat ran between Llandudno and Colwyn Bay but unfortunately I cannot recall it running.

Glad you enjoyed the Canny Coalman trip details and the photos[tup]. It is great lo

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G’day Gents!

A fine afternoon with our Manager ‘n Bar Chandler making daylite submissions for the enjoyment of the crew! [bow] As always, comments in my next round of acknowledgments - but by all means, have one on me - Cindy - fill ‘em up!

Now Arriving on Track #1

Six Pack Special Number Fourteen

RR advertisements from the Classic Era

International Special

(1) Ireland

(2) Amsterdam-Kopenhagen Express

(3) Canadian National Railways - Through Canada

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Good afternoon Leon , the place has been busy today which is good ( sould be the new scenery behind the bar not that the old scenery was bad )[tup] just a Guiness while I collect my thoughts,I’ve left a twenty for a late afternoon round as well.

**Pete-**More great photo’s sir,nice to know that the scanner is working upto it’s full potential for you , also you must be keeping the black bag away from the scanner [:-^]Once barn four is completed next year it ashould be able to house 30-36 pieces of equipment so everything that is needing restoration will have a home away from the elements and away from the vandels.

**Tom-**Now there are some fine fine posters,caught just about every corner of our ,<GOR’s> territory with those. [tup] Thanks for the top up,seem’s Cindy has brought out the best in us today [tup]

Lets see a couple more new one’s from the museum for everybody.

An open side shot of 23. Which restoration is now complete,she gets speacial occation use only at the moment as we haven’t started a comprehensive operators training on her yet.

A shot of our first car 1326 at the 2005 50th aniversary festivities. Museum member #1 John Mills is at the controls.

Crane Car C1 sunning itself in Yard three. ( in front of Barn 3 )

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G’day Gents!

Some action today - so time for a leg up on the acknowledgments . . .

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Thursday - August 21st :

Page 10 - CM3 Shane at 9:11 AM: Meant to make comment on the NYC run from St. Louis to NY City - no diner between Buffalo ‘n Grand Central [?] That’s a bit odd, wouldn’t ya think [?] Hmmmm. Anyway, appreciate those kinds of things - which I really enjoy digging out from time to time in my copy of the Almanac. [yeah]

How I would have luvd to have traveled the Laurentian - especially if powered by those great looking Alco’s with the D&H bonnet livery! [bow] Yeah, that wudda been totally . [yeah]

Pleased to know that your Rendezvous III plaque has a place of significance . . . that was the idea! [tup]

Sorry to disappoint, but Choo Choo Coleman didn’t ring a bell. I know NOW - since I searched - but . . .

By the by - I’m nearly half-way thru The Killing of History! A struggle - really a difficult read for the likes

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Hi Tom and all,

Leon, the usual round of Tuis for all the guys please![yeah]

Tom. Sounds as if you had to be a jack of all trades whilst at sea showing the flicks sometimes, it was hard enough threading up again after a film snap on terra firma never mind a rocking ship, they were very frustrating moments as you could hear the patrons yahooing and stomping their feet till the flick was running again.[banghead] Some more great cab shots from your Dallas RDC adventure, those skys look really stormy when you took the pix.[^] Your wall display cases make a really great feature in your trainroom, they really look the part with all your retired model RR gear on show.[^][:)][tup][tup]

Rob. The NZ and Australian navies started off in similar fashion to the RCN with very much the same type of cruisers`. A fine spread of colourful diesel and trolley pix from your extensive collection.[:)][tup]

Eric. My old memory is playing tricks again as far as those ABBA gals names are concerned[%-)], knew that the brunettes name was Frida, im very partial to brunettes.[;)] Interesting rear view mirror shot in that cab pic of Toms you posted and a fine Climax shot too.[^] Bon Voyage for your trip back to the old country, have a very enjoyable time over there, and take care too.[:)][tup][tup]

CM3. Some interesting info on the “Paul Revere” passenger car consist and the “Laurentian-Green Mountain Flyer” train.[:)][tup]

Pete. The last time that I saw those Llandudno trams` was in 1952, wi

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Good evening Leon , just a small pitcher of draft tonight .Figured that I would pop back in this evening to catch up before teh oevr night crew gets in.[:D]

**Tom-**Sooo Dick kept you hopping , oh well it’s good for the blood circulation n speacially with all those things you say you didn’t have a chance to watch wondering about.[;)] I figured that that wayward locomotive must have been either a loner or a recent purchase , good to know that engineer Dave was on top of things.

Don’t worry about September we will be getting back right about when Pete is leaving,would love to have you with us but hey we’ll enjoy the sights for you. [tup]

Barn four is in edition to what we already have , all four barns will be and are needed.What will ahppen is it will allow us to do two things. First we get the outside stored cars and subway trains inside and protected.Second it gets permanent homes for the four cars that currently live in barn two which is our restoration building with all the shop equipment and the inspection pit.That means we can actually get back to restoring cars as we will have a place to take them apart in and work on them.

Okay another pitcher there Leon the draft ain’t all that bad tonight [tup] Lets see a couple last shots for one and all.

A rare treat. VIA FP pulling one of the daily trains through Brantford in 1989, right at the tail end of the blue line cars and F’s.

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Well Leon I see we have a bit of company in the form of our local NZ connection Allan. [tup] Top up his glass of Tui for me won’t you my lad.

**Allan-**So you and Tom share the same horror stories of the films snapping and then having to rethread them.[banghead] I remember having to fix one’s in school but the crowds there were not as rowdy,seeing as the filmboard educational flicks were not always that new, or interesting.Glad that you’ve been enjoying all the photo’s.

Well since I’m still here how about another couple…

A gaggle of PCC’s on the Harbourfront line in the 80’s.

Herer’s a neat one one of the Montreal tramways four purpose built sightseeing cars.This one is car #2.It’s preserved at the Seashore trolley Museum in Kennebunkport Maine.This shot was taken in 2002 by one of our friends and museum counterparts that was down there swapping parts with the Seashore folks.Interestingly all four of Montreal’s sightseers were saved. the only one still in Canada is at Exporail.

Another Canadian ex-pat also at Seashore is this single truck snowsweeper.Ottawa’s B2

Here is a neat shiot from the museum archieves.It is a Niles built double truck car originally bought

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Friday’s Grin

Lines To Make You Smile

I Work Hard Because Millions On Welfare Depend on Me!

G’day Gents!

Finally made it - Friday ‘n the end of the work week ! What better way to start the morning that with us [?] Fill up those mugs with our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend - check out those fresh pastries in The Mentor Village Baker case! And if you have the time, order a or breakfast to jump start your morning! [yeah]

The long awaited rains arrived, providing most welcome relief for the green things ‘n creatures inhabiting the trees, shrubs ‘n assorted holes in the ground. Temps are still very comfortable - unbelievably so, in fact. Petrol was $3.38 at “Collusion Corner.” Heard that a “spike” has occurred - so I’ll have to check when I’m out later on . . . Situation with the Russians has the speculator AH JOs running in circles. What’s new [?]

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Eric departs this day for Sweden