"Our" Place IV - <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults 'n Classic Trains

[Great_Western]

Good evening gents,

Sorry I can’t stop. Popped in just to see who was here. [(-D]

Re Welsh station names, Well I am alive and I can pronounce it. I learned it in 1953 - which is a long while ago.

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

The longest town name in the world means “The church of St. Mary in the hollow of white hazel trees near the rapid whirlpool by St. Tysilio’s of the red cave”.

The Wisbech Tramway carried mainly fruit and produce from the Fenland fields. It was a pretty unique system and the line was very flat with virtually no grades. As it was classed as a tramway and ran, in parts, on public roads the cowcatcher was a government regulation.

Oh. yes. Thanks for the Milwaukee Road page . That’s one of my US railroads on my models.

[nickinwestwales]

Well good evening gentlemen all ,Leon-a quick short for all please whilst we take a minute to consider not only what happened on this day,but also all the other times when innocent passers by became victims …thank you Right then-just back from band night,and my word was it loose and funky-more Little Feat than James Brown-and none the worse for that [^]-this show is definately ready for the road… So-to business:- ERIC-good to have you back mate-hope you enjoyed your travels…[tup]-nice pix of the class B-Im assuming that the valve gear is inside the frames..??-keep it near the boiler and the radiant heat keeps everything running loose and easy.......<br><br><br><br>[oX)][4:-)]TOM-Everything changes mate-all the time-I dare not go back to the old village cos it won`t be the place I left-last I heard,I ran into a bunch of tourists down from there (about 10 years ago) and a kid I remember being born was then the head barman in the local pub-where I used to work a generation before… The new job is not a worry-have always worked in the service industry,this time I dont have to get 40-60 meals ready 3 times a day-just answer the phone and wrap books… I can live with this [:-^] SHANE-completely agree-N.G itis is a devious disease-one moment you are cutting timber for a basement full of main line trackage,before you know it you have assembled a 3 ft cube of a North Wales quarry with lines on 5 levels,various lifts between levels and you are downloading articles about exactly what wet slate or rusted rails look like and how to reproduce a w

[EricX2000]

Good evening Captain Tom and all present!!

Leon, still awake! Yes, a cold Tui, please.

A busy day. Tonight I watched a lot of TV. It was all about what happened 7 years ago. Made me think about the WTC attack 1993. That was when Amtrak had the X2000 in revenue service between Washington and NYC. I saw the smoke that time. 7 years ago I was home from work, sick and watched TV all day.

Tom – No, Rendezvous IV is still on my agenda and I don’t plan to remove it. Just hope the gas price is a bit lower then. Maybe we can discuss the travel plans in November when you are in town! [:)]

Two seats to yourself on long flights is worth a lot.[tup] Much more room for everything and can go to the bathroom anytime! No pillow when flying first class doesn’t sound right.[|(] They actually had pillows in economy class last Sunday when I flew from Chicago to Phoenix. United Airlines.

Yes, today is/was a tragic day. I remember like yesterday when it happened. Was sick and saw when the second plane hit WTC live and heard when the plane hit Pentagon. A reporter was reporting from Pentagon when it happened. I spent a couple of hours in front of the TV tonight watching a lot of videos from that day.

I am afraid I need a name on what is missing on that locomotive. A good try though! 1/3 correct![;)]

Interesting SP ad![tup] Palm Springs looked different then, in the early 50’s![:)]

CM3 – Parts of the valve gear is missing, but so is another part that is more obvious in my opinion. But I’ll give you 1/2 right answer, free drinks the rest of this week and weekend! Sunday you have to come in through the back door. Boris will let you in.

[Great_Western]

Hi folks,

Regarding the spelling of that looooooooooooooong name. I checked with the four web pages I Googled and they all five four L’s. Anway no one ever says it as we all know. It’s just Llanfair PG.

Just quick visit. I have to assist at a funeral in an hours time. Dear old soul of 95 years. RIP.

[siberianmo]

<CP Rail M-630 at ExpoRail - personal foto>

Friday’s Grin

Lines To Make You Smile

Don’t take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.

G’day Gents!

41 months ago on this day, “Our” Place was founded as a cyber bar ‘n grill for adults who enjoy sharing info on Classic Trains while having some fun doing it. We’ve had many pass through our doorways <we have 2 sets!> some we’ll fondly remember - others not. Some very interactive - others not. Some genuine in personality, acts ‘n deeds - others not. Here’s to those who gave <'n give> a Rat’s Patoot about this Tavern by the Tracks, especially our current crew! [bow] [tup] [wow] [yeah] ALL DRINKS ON THE HOUSE TODAY for our Gang of Regulars! [bow]

Breakfasts are being prepared in our galley for those who enjoy a or pick-me-up before heading off to work or play! Our coffee is freshly ground ‘n brewed ‘n our pastries in The Mentor Village Bakery case are mouth watering . . . check ‘em out! [tup]

[coalminer3]

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Clear here this morning with temps in the 50s. Bought some $3.85 “bargain” gas on the way to work this a.m. Can’t wait to see what it’ll be next week.

Now to the stack of stuff.

Rob was in with comments - am glad to see that your picture machine is working again.

Pete - Thought you’d enjoy that site - he keeps adding to it.

Alan - Hello, again - thanks for information on Llanfair.

Nick - Mittle Feat and James Brown in the same sentence? Whoda thunk it.

Eric - Free drinks for being 1/2 right? I like it! Interesting setup at the grade crossing. Are most of them like that in populated areas?

OSP - Appreciated the rerun of GS material. I thought you’d enjoy the site - did you take a look at the RDCs in Pittsburgh and the CN RDC. Your remark about Channel Chuggers kicked something forward in what’s left of the brain cells. There was a fire yesterday in the Channel tunnel. Freight train. People were evacuated out through the third tunnel. That was all they said on CNN - no mention of it after that. Good luck with the basement.

Will try and get back later.

work safe

[trolleyboy]

A quick good morning folks. Ruth just a half order of the splashed coffee as I’m in a bit of a hurry ( gotta pay the bills afterall , so they tell me [:D] )But I couldn’t not stop first thing in the morning on the monthiversary afterall.Proper acknowlogements later this evening.Herer’sa couple shots to keep thingsinteresting.

An oddball from our trip into Ohio in 1994

Algoma Geep in the Agawa canyon

Another Northern Geep for everyone to enjoy.

Rob

[LoveDomes]

HAPPY 41st MONTHLY ANNIVERSARY

to “OUR” PLACE and CURRENT CREW!

[bow] [tup] [yeah] [wow] [swg]

Ahoy Cap’n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!

Ruth my deAH, your radiance is omnipresent - [wow] did I say that[?] [swg] Anyway, great to be back at the bar for a special day! The Forty First month of “Our” Place is definitely a celebraSHUN in the making! [bow] Set up the bar on the Senior Manager ‘n let me take care of the tab for the food, as I see Da Bossman is providing free drinks on this day! [yeah]

Boris - time to feed those crittAHs! Awk gets the tray of seeds - Frostbite the bucket of ice cubes - Spike gets the tree bark - Tex is waiting for his saucer of brine - Artie is ready to devour a field mouse <OUTSIDE!> ‘n of course Juneau a chew bone! After that - YOU get the LARGE jar of pickled pig’s feet! [swg]

A toa

[siberianmo]

G’day Gents!

Well, well - the Larsman returned with a super-fine spread of book covAHs for the gang on the occasion of our 41^st Monthly Anniversary! [bow]

Great having our Senior Manager on board! [tup]

A tad hard on the boyz though - for I doubt that either of ‘em deliberately failed to recognize this day - just a matter of not reading 'n connecting with the daily reminders . . . happens.

Anyway, good to see Lars, Shane ‘n Rob come in during the daylite! [bow]

Springs me loose for this from our sub-basement archives room . . .

The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of “Our” Place #17

Burlington Route

<A form of this was initially Posted on 06 Oct 2005, Page 129 at “Our” Place I>

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

[bday]41^st anniversary to Our Place the best bar in the ether[bow][^][tup]. Well RUTH Eric is buying my beer until the end of the weekend[tup], Tom is getting the beers today[^] and Senior Manager Lars is in[bow], so keep the Bathams and Holden’s coming[tup].

TOM Great toast for today.[^][tup]

Good news you have found someone who is willing to tackle the basement how you want it to be done[tup]. That is the method we had done with the front wall, which is totally underground, and there is no sign of leakage along that wall in our basement where there was a fair bit before we had it done.

I must admit has I got older I really learnt to appreciate the narrow gauge and the industrial railway scene.[bow]

It is really good those timetables from back in the day survived,as you say, it would be greatto have a look through them [yeah]. I am always up for a visit to the Barriger Library[tup].

Yes there really is some great material in the back pages of Our Place.[bow]

G.W, ALAN Thanks for the translation of the Llanfair PG name[tup]. Reading it reminded me of where I had seen the translation before. In the late 1950s or early 1960s BR had a small kiosk on the seafront at Rhyl where we used to holiday. They used to advertise local excursions and cheap tickets, they also produced a small booklet with timetables and a guide to the places in the area and the piece about Llanfair was in the booklet. Like Tom and I discussed about old timetables etc that booklet would be very interesting to read today<

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

Back again RUTH[tup] the free beer it is hard to resist[swg].

TOM Many thanks for the Fallen Flag on the Burlington Route[tup][tup][tup]. I see the BN still had 10 steam locomotives in 1963[^],which I guess was quite late for a class 1 railroad. I see what you meant about some of the Zephyr named trains[yeah], The Morning Zephyr and the Afternoon Zephyr served different destinations from Chicago[%-)]. I think the Exposition Flyer is one of the most attractive drumheads there was.[^]

Is that cheering I hear[?], it must be because it is time for the next 10 Western names.[:)]

1021 WESTERN CAVALIER

1022 WESTERN SENTINEL

1023 WESTERN FUSILIER

1024 WESTERN HUNTSMAN

1025 WESTERN GUARDSMAN

1026 WESTERN CENTURIAN

1027 WESTERN LANCER

1028 WESTERN HUSSAR

1029 WESTERN LEGIONNAIRE

1030 WESTERN MUSKETEER

After the names I had better post some photos[swg]. These were taken near my old home at Rugby. The first one is a class 60 diesel-electric No. 60085 ‘Axe Edge’ heading north over the River Avon Bridge with an empty stone train; this was the site of water troughs in steam days. The 60 has the Trainload Construction sector markings on the side of the loco.

Before the 60s took over the working of this train a pair of class 37s worked it, if the wind was right the sound of the 37s could be heard for many miles at my old house[^].

Looking the other direction, with the Parkfield Road bridge in the background. a class 87 electric works an Inter City tra

[EricX2000]

Good afternoon Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Hello Leon, you look kind of tired! No, I’ll have a sugar cured ham sandwich on rye, please. A free Tuborg Gold to that!

Happy 41st Monthly Anniversary! [yeah][bow][wow][C):-)]

Another busy day in the desert. I have decided to post my catch up post on Sunday. I’ll drop it in the mail slot.

Alan – I believe you.[:)] I just thought that no one possibly could spell a name like that correctly. I would lose track of where I was after typing half of it.[;)]

Tom – Thanks for the drinks! [bow]

We all have senior moments, I have them several times every day.[%-)]

Now I remember, we (the brunette and I) saw that guy standing in the corner watching us at St. Louis Union Station. He actually looked a lot like you! Hmm. It was in June 1993! [:-,]

Did I miss something?[?] Hmm, now I am very confused. Doesn’t take much to get me to that point.[%-)] Hmm. Let’s see… no, I am afraid I need a hint.

Interesting facts on Burlington![tup] including a nice looking book cover, The Pioneer Zephyr! They certainly had quite a few Zephyrs running in all directions.

I like the Exposition Flyer drumhead!

Museum of Transportation, Kirkwood, MO.

CM3 –&

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Leon , I see that you are still running about taking drink orders , happens when the boss opens the vault and offers free libations , doubled by the Senior managers pention for pre paid food ( at least we got paid for it though at the very resonable sr managers discount[:-^] ) So with that said a Keith’s and large pizza with all the trimmings.

**Tom-**Good to hear that after many a try you’ve found someone to fix the wall properly [tup]Though unfortunatly it will deplete the ole retirement fund somewhat [tdn]could be worse you could be right in the way of Ike.They’ve gone out on a limb and posted flood warnings for most of southwestern ontario Sarnia to Toronto in case the strom drops a pile o rain on us on sunday when it’s supposed to arrive over head. Where did I put that oil skin [?] Some great reading from da archieves as well sir [tup] [bow]

I try not to look at the active topics it makes me ill still to see how we’ve been shafted,yup my toughts no one will change that.I’m sure the lockmaster will enjoy that coment.

**Lars-**Good to see you again sir and you were in with some fine fine books.A little bit there for everybody which is A1 top notch stuff.Very generous to spring for the food on this montiversary as well [tup]

Neat link on the new ferries as well.It’s nice to see that the risde is free [tup] not that the nickle was anything to complain about ( I’m sure some people would though [sigh] )

Ontario is heaven,Northern Ontario is definatly Gods’s country,I do intend to retire there eventually [tup]. I’m what you call an oddity,I’m as fiercly loyal and pround of my country and home Province as most American’s are of theirs.But you knew that a

[siberianmo]

<CP Rail M-630 at ExpoRail - personal foto>

G’day Gents!

The smell of freshly baked pastries ‘n brewed coffee fills the air at the Saloon by the Siding on this Saturday! Time to check out our ‘n breakfasts too . . . [tup]

Petrol has jumped 30 cents to $3.70 ‘n is expected to top 4 bucks real quick, perhaps even make it to a fiver before all of this business with Ike is over.

Weather predictions now has the remains of the storm system passing directly over us on Sunday with the possibility of 6 inches of torrential rainfall along with sustained high winds. Ought to be a loveRly day ‘n nite . . . batten down the hatches, Boris, we’re in “it.” Gotta man the “diaper brigade” as well, for undoubtedly there’ll be water coming through the basement bulkhead . . .

Estimate for the “fix” came in just about where I figured - I bought a car for that price ! But, watchyagonnado, eh [?]

Truly a treat having our Senior Manager on board once again, if only for the Monthly Remembrance of the founding of this joint called “Our” Place! [bow] [tup] Sure knows how to shake things up! But hard to argue with his points . . .

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Comments from the Proprietor

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A little early but seeing as it free beer again[^] and to celebrate the Mighty Shrews 7-0 win[wow][bow] I’ll have a Bathams please CINDY. [tup]

ERIC Yes it was my first flight across the Atlantic and back I had a 777 although the TV in the back of the seat did not work on one of them[banghead]. I will probably feel the same way about flying when I get back from my trip.

Have you heard of any high vehicles hitting the overhead electric wires in Sweden[?], not a good thing I would have thought.[:O]

The electric power in the centenary in the photos is 25, 000 Volts single phase A.C.

Many thanks for the photos[^][tup]. I think the small steam locomotive ‘Brasken’ could be a locomotive of that name that was built in early 2006. It has been on the Exmoor Steam Railway and the Rudyard Lake railway in England if it is the same engine.

ROB Glad you enjoyed the photos[tup]. Those electrics were certainly good locomotives for BR,[bow] with English Electric electrical equipment. Like the Geeps there are still a few of EE class 37s hanging on in there in Britain, even some of the 50 year old class 20s working for DRS.

Yes I could get used to this free beer and food at the bar[^], hate to think what my bar tab will be like when I get back from my holiday[:O], rising interest rates and no wages to pay it off, but I am sure there must be a scheme for paid holidays at the bar[:-^][:D].

TOM They are forecasting about the same amount of rain for us here[tdn], but there again they said we would get about 3 to 4 i

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

Back again CINDY with the rest of Alan’s photos from Germany and another Bathams please[tup].

Another photo of No. 8 a bit further along the freight only line.

The special train reversed at Meinerzhagen onto another freight only line.

The line serves a quarry, but the line is threatened with closure. Looking the other way from the last photo this is former station at Krummenerl with No.4 in the background.

Another view of the former station at Krummenerl.

Well CINDY it is amazing how well the free Bathams is going down[oops] so another one please[tup].

Pete.

[siberianmo]

G’day Gents!

Aside from Pete, our Bar Chandler, dropping off a two-fer with some fine Pix, this place is typically slow on this Saturday in mid-continent USA.

We’re hot, muggy ‘n waiting for “the other shoe” to drop as remnants of Ike are heading this way . . . Juneau knows something’s “up,” for he’s staying close to the house . . .

Figure I’d put this “up” ‘n call it a day . . . going out this evening for the finale of our summer theatre for this year. Tonite is "The Music Man.**" Seen several times “live,” but always a winner. [bow] [tup]

Anyway, here’s a few RANDOM FOTOS to maintain some interest at this Bar by the Ballast! [tup]

(1) Interurbans at Halton County Radial Railway

[nickinwestwales]

Evening gents-Leon-a round of brandies to wash down the beers everybody else has bought-just a quick bookmark whilst I catch up… Apologies for missing yesterday-was a matter of priorities-was mine & missisnicks 19th anniversary -also we have her mum down for the weekend-not enough hours in the day I`m afraid Notes from the real world-I think events in New York have been eloquently and adequately covered by those best suited to so do…Chunnel fire is apparently now out,although have had no word of services being resumed-extensive safety checks still required…Grim news of Ike ripping up Texas…Equally grim tidings of metro train wreck…On a lighter note,in these parts,lipstick on a pig generally indicates that someone is looking at a hot date…[:-^] Back in a bit [C=:-)]

[EricX2000]

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, I would like a juicy Filet Mignon with lots of mushrooms! Since Nick is somewhere in the building, maybe he could cook it? Yes, a cold Keith’s, please.

Finally got some time to pay a visit to my favorite place by the siding, Our Place! A pretty nice day here this Saturday.

Rob – Thanks for the answer![tup] I’ve been flying over Sault Ste Marie many times, last time was last Sunday. Hard to see any details from 37,000 ft though.[swg]

Tom – Gas up 30 cents! Wow![|(] Here it hasn’t moved at all so far, still around $3.40. I better get some gas tonight.[:-,]

I know Lars knows how to wake you up, I just had to give something back.[swg]

I understand you now, what I missed.[:)] In my very narrow world the new day starts when I wake up in the morning (whatever time that is).

Yes, I also wish that I could get a ride in one of those old, good looking, Zephyrs. But I am afraid those days are gone.

My favorite planes flying across the pond are Boeing 767 and DC-10 (MD-11).[:)]

That little locomotive is, as far as I know, a fantasy creation. It is a real steam locomotive running on a (about) 7” gauge track. Its just for fun rides and I just happened to drive by and stopped when I saw it.

The steam locomotive.

There is also another locomotive, a gasoline powered one.

Nice collection of pho

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Leon. I think a Keith’s and a nice strip loin done to perfection with the mushroom sauce oh and what the heck a fully loaded baked potato.

**Tom-**Enjoy the show tonight and your upcomming one [tup] I aggree with you Gordon’s music is just that real music not the canned trash of today ( ask me what a really think of it [swg] )

Great photo’s from your vault today , nice to see that Delson saved one of the 70 tonners incidentally those were the only GE locmotives purchased by Canadian roads until CN orderd their first batch of cowel bodied dash 8’s in 1991 !As to that pair in Marion those NS units were early dash 8’s with the non-wide cab bodies , cheap and ugly and in proper Southern / Norfolk Western style they were set up to operate long hood forward.

Hope you weather the weather well tomorrow they are calling for upwards of 50mm of rain here tomorrow as well ! We may all be bailing before it’s over and done with.You get to here and I can drive us the rest of the way to the Sault,it’s not that far.Besides you’ll see parts of Ontario that are still wild.

I was kind of thinking that Lars’s final post over at the other thread was appropriate.I wasn’t thinking of supporting it much any more myself.

**Pete-**Some great photo’s , oh and no one gets paid holiday’s sheesh the noive of some people eh Tom [?]

**Eric-**I can’t imagine that the Sault would look like much of anything from 37,000 feet, I doubt you would even see the Seaway locks well from that height.That’s an intriging little steamer,I think one just like it would look good in your back yard [tup]

Rob</