Overheard: "The Toyota or the Mopar"

Yes, this is train related.

I was near Shops (NFDL, W) Yard today and heard two conductors talking back and forth over the air. One train (CN 2627 South) was heading for Byron Hill with a pretty long and heavy train (13,500 tons and 8700 feet) and there were a pair of helper units waiting at Valley to tie on the back of the train to help it over the hill. The conductor on 2627 asked the conductor on the helpers “Which’ll we be using today: the Toyota or the Mopar?” and the answer was "Both, with the train you’ve got. CN 2627 south had a pair of -9Ws on the head end. The helpers were CN 5606 (EMD SD70i) and IC 6201 (EMD SD40-3 IIRC).

My question is this:
Why “Toyota” and “Mopar” and which was which? TIA.

I guess the Toyota would be the foreign railroad built rails (CN) and the original main track

would have been Wisc. Central built rails if he was taking about a double track mainline.

Very obscurily stated reference!

Actually, I’d guess the Mopar was the SD40 and the Toyota the new locomotive, amongst the two helpers…

lnteresting Larry, I figured the other way. Maybe the IC SD40 would be the Toyota (them things never die) and the Mopar would be (by default-no other reason I can think of) the SD70.

I guarantee they weren’t talking about which main they were on…this was a direct reference to the engines.

I could probably argue either way. I took it as the SD40 being the “legendary” (like Mopar) power, with the SD70 being the new (but still respectable) newcomer.

Ahh…I guess that could go either way. Anyone else ever heard anything like this?

What? No Ford or Chevy?

How do you know they weren’t talking about one of these when they referenced “Mopar”?

You would think, that they’d refer to the EMDs as Chevys. I mean, they’re GM products.

I’m not sure one (or two or ten) of those would be much help on Byron hill.

That would be more like a moped than a Mopar! (good reference, though!).

To my knowledge the nearest working Plymouth Locomotive is/was in Crivitz, WI and on the ELS. I could be wrong though…

I would have also thought of the “GM” reference too…EMD/GMD, etc…either way I have since heard those terms in reference to GE locos too…so I’m going to have to go to a “source” that may know more.

Not for the last few years…soon they’ll be Cats…

Could be the Mopar is the LaGrange-built and the Toyota the London-built…

well, here’s what I’d think. I’d suspect that whatever loco they were calling the toyota would be a short stroke, high reving engine, that you really have to get the rpms up in order to get any power out of it. (likely turbocharged)

As opposed to the brute force of a lower rev ving, longer stroke engine typified as being the Mopar.

Makes great sense to me. Would you classify the SD40-3 as the Toyota and the SD70i as the Mopar under that logic? Or the other way around?