Penn Station - Atlantic City train planned

[gardendance]

QUOTE: Originally posted by oltmannd
You’d have to relay the NE leg of the connection at Delair. The alignment is still intact - the Nellie Bly used to use it.

If NJT had done commuter rail on the C&A, they could have done all sorts of interesting things. It would have integrated the commuter rail network in North Jersey with the AC line.

NJT doesn’t have any diesels that operate under the Hudson. Are you asking why they don’t run more of the diesels trains into Penn by swapping engines? NJT currently has all it’s “slots” in the Hudson river tunnel filled up. They can’t run any more trains in rush hour - only figure ways to increase seating on trains.

I’m a daily commuter thru Delair. I haven’t noticed any evidence of a NE alignment, I’ll try to pay more attention next time I go by, but it sure looks like there are houses in the way.

I still feel any advantage you get would get from not having to double cross the Delaware River, including avoiding the one drawbridge, is offset by the extensive single tracking and the lower speed limits on the New Jersey side south of Trenton.

Thanks for reminding me that the Hudson River tunnels are already full. But in this example, gamblers trains could possibly be marketable at times of the day that are off peak to normal people. I notice there’s another thread
Amtrak FL9 locomotives to operate NJT Atlantic City Service?

[oltmannd]

QUOTE: Originally posted by gardendance

QUOTE: Originally posted by oltmannd
You’d have to relay the NE leg of the connection at Delair. The alignment is still intact - the Nellie Bly used to use it.

If NJT had done commuter rail on the C&A, they could have done all sorts of interesting things. It would have integrated the commuter rail network in North Jersey with the AC line.

NJT doesn’t have any diesels that operate under the Hudson. Are you asking why they don’t run more of the diesels trains into Penn by swapping engines? NJT currently has all it’s “slots” in the Hudson river tunnel filled up. They can’t run any more trains in rush hour - only figure ways to increase seating on trains.

I’m a daily commuter thru Delair. I haven’t noticed any evidence of a NE alignment, I’ll try to pay more attention next time I go by, but it sure looks like there are houses in the way.

I still feel any advantage you get would get from not having to double cross the Delaware River, including avoiding the one drawbridge, is offset by the extensive single tracking and the lower speed limits on the New Jersey side south of Trenton.

Thanks for reminding me that the Hudson River tunnels are already full. But in this example, gamblers trains could possibly be marketable at times of the day that are off peak to normal people. I notice there’s another thread
Amtrak FL9 locomotives to operate NJT Atlantic City Service?

The alignment is there, but hard to discern from the train. I found both a picture of the Nellie Bly and a PRSL map and went to investigate. It was all still there, but overgown with vegetation. That was about 12 years ago or so. I’m going to try a Google Local map and see if the alignment is still visible.

Not having to stop and change ends, complete with brake test (5 min), plus not having to do the extra 3 miles across the bridge at 30 mph

[oltmannd]

Looks like there are about 4 houses sitting on the original connection aligment. The old alignment is visible from the Google Local maps.