My wife said to bid a high as I want. But I have 1 question. I take from the description that the 2 OMI Tenders were water, is the origional tender OIL filled? I follow OMI products pretty close on Ebay and the Turbine Tenders sell for $250.00+ each. So it seems like a good deal.
the centipede tender carries both oil and water, while the turbine tenders are now water only.
the angled line is the divider between the water (rear) and oil tanks of the tender, now in the original coal bin.
also notice firehose connected to rear of tender keeping it topped off while on hot display.
click pic for giant view!!!
Does it use that much water to oil ratio? I would think that they would convert the whole tender to OIL and leave the Turbine Tenders to carry all the water needed.
Thanks
yep. the oil gets esentially sprayed into the firebox as a fairly fine mist (kinda like gasoline in a car engine). and the water HAS to stay above the top of the firebox, otherwise it’ll melt clean through. Thus the loco can only “use” about 40-50% of the boiler’s water capacity at any given time (ie the water level has to be kept at about 50-60% or above).
they use much more water than oil, and they use a lot of oil.water is a lot harder to get to the train, and they used tons of it, in modern service, the second water (third total) tender is only used when the distance between water stops (willing fire departments) require it.
Its too bad that the shot that you posted above doesn’t have the reporting marks for oil tank and water tank sizes on the tender.
Werent they somewhere along the lines of 20k gals (probably even more than that) for the oil and like 50k+ for the water?
…only tender size I remember offhand was NYC Hudsons (28 tons of coal, and 54,000 gallons of water)…
link to challenger specs.
http://www.uprr.com/aboutup/excurs/up3985.shtml
water capacity for the centipede tender is 25,000 gallons, the size of the oil bunker is 6,500 gallons.
Better check your figures on the Hudson water capacity. The NYC J3a had 14000 Gallons of water and used track pans every 100 miles or so for the tender when new.
Well I know that the water tenders have and are being converted back close to their regular appearence when they were tenders for 800 series locos
go here to take a look at the progress
The Overland Diamond series is extremly good as Brian Marsh has worked close with the UP to get them right. The tenders that come with the Diamond are models of the water tenders that are being reworked even as we speak. They were used on the big Turbines until their retirement and were modified from FEF-1 tenders. Most of the Challenger Diamond models sell for $1800 plus and are worth the money. The Challenger tender still holds oil and water but the extra water tenders allow an extra 150 miles or so on the Challenger and more for the 844. For example, the 4449 uses about 15 gals of oil a mile and 150 gal of water per mile with a passenger train. The ratio is about 10 to 1. If you had 6500 Gallons of oil, you need about 65000 gal of water to go the distance that the oil would last.
The web page belows shows how they look now after rework. I would think that Overland will offer those also in the future.
whoops, you’re right. Wasn’t paying attention to what I was typing… LOL!
I have been out of town and checked the Ebay to see how much it went for. Did you get it??
I saw this today…
…and I was wondering the same.
NO it went for $2175.75. A little more then she wantes to spend. There is another one on there though. Looks like it’s socks again [;)]
Sorry you did not get the model. I have never seen on of these go for less than $1850 or so.
I have the Overland Grayhound two tone gray version of the Challenger and it is very nice.
If you want a great Challenger, try an older run Key. They are as nice in detail and actually have some detail more correct than the Overland. I have some Key Challengers also and like them very much. The Key models have been run more times and more are available on the used market…