Plastic that's "as good as brass"

Well, I have no respect for the man’s opinion whatsoever, and yes he is attacking me, but the truth is, he is so clueless about how he relates to others he probably doesn’t even realize he is doing it. I have never seen him say anything that added value to any conversation, but maybe that is just because I am not seeking his approval for what I do, because that is the only thing he dispenses (or not).

Now back to your points. “a brass bias in my opinion”? Yes, as it relates to detail, not anything else as I made clear in the original post. So again, you are as guilty as he in having knee jerk reactions and putting words in my mouth. Reacting in such a way implies you are the one with a bias. Frankly I dont care if you have a bias for plastic over brass because that is not the subject of this thread. I begged in my original post to not turn this into a plastic vs brass debate and Sheldon and now you refuse to honor that simple request.

Secondly, I didnt ask what locomotive to buy. I didnt give out enough information for anyone to make a recommendation for me. No where did I say, “what should I buy?”. I am capable of figuring that out on my own given all the facts. The only facts I’m missing relate to level of detail of most of the more expensive plastic models because I dont have a way to examine them first hand before purchasing as they are not stocked at my LHS. Hence my question to this forum. I asked what plastic locomotives have brass quality level of detail. That is a very narrowly framed question but some people cant limit themselves to the restricted scope of it because it is more fun for them to have a flame war on brass vs plastic - something I refuse to be drawn in to.

Then you ask, are you more interested in detail or operating quality? I made it clear I was asking about detail only. I am already aware of the fact that many people claim plastic runs better than brass,

Keith,Maybe you like what for a answer ???

I dunno what answer you are looking for…

I fully believe you got some very intelligent answers based on member’s knowledge…

This thread is drifting off-topic, so please get back onto the rails.

I’m modelling the steam era, but Athearn’s recently released GP38-2s seem to be very nicely-done and somewhat in the same vein as recent brass offerings, with details and major features matching specific prototypes. There may be others out there where the differences go beyond the paint scheme applied, but I’m not familiar enough with them to comment further.

Sheldon’s question, below, is a valid one.

If the former, your choices in both brass and plastic will be limited to very specific locomotives, while the latter ope

Ya think? Pictures of a lawn mower, house car is beyond stupid, but it only draws attention when the OP ask that certain individuals not turn his thread into “The World according to Sheldon”

I don’t think Keith’s request is out of line at all, this is his thread, and would like information concerning brass locos. Mr Personality [D)] turned it into his personal photo album.

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I didnt ask for help deciding what to buy. I didnt ask for help finding locomotives to fit into a specific theme or prototype. I only asked for whats out there. I can figure out the rest myself. I didn’t think I was asking a complicated question. I’ll try to answer yours by saying with respect to my interests, all of the above. I am specifically modeling the modern era with a Union Pacific main line set in a somewhat rural northern California landscape. Beyond that I am freelancing with no specific line, junction, or yard being modeled. I like locomotives so I want to try to fit an engine yard to have an excuse to own more of them, but that has its own challenges.

Matching my choice of modern era and UP, Overland provides a nice assortment of very high quality models that exactly fit my needs with a good breadth of offerings, something Sheldon’s statements discount even though the facts are clearly against him. He claims that brass is too limiting to model anything specific and that my layout is incoherent because I’ve limited myself to primarily brass up to now. I dont know how he can make such statements and people respect his opinion. Overland specializes in filling exactly this niche and they do it quite well. That is why until now I havent felt compelled to venture outside their products very much. SD70Ace, ES44AC, AC6000, AC4400, SD70, Gensets. They have a wide assortment of modern power. His statements are just way off base and fly in the face of reality.

I am interested in trying to look beyond brass, but the discussion has gotten off track because some people would much rather hijack the thread to mock my choice to have bought brass without knowing anything about me or my project, something that from my

Keith,Maybe you like what for a answer ???

I dunno what answer you are looking for…

I fully believe you got some very intelligent answers based on member’s knowledge…

Larry.

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Really?.. You cant think of the name of a highly detailed plastic locomotive like a BLI? Then why are you posting here and why are you insulting in the tone of your response? If you cant understand the simple question sit down and be quiet. Dont mouth off at me and show your ignorance.

Keith

OK, we had our fun, now it´s time to move on.