In Ohio mentioning either Michigan college can result in an outbreak of fight songs and choruses of Hang on Sloopy! [(-D]
I just need to pull them out and take pics of them all.
I have 2 under the train table in their boxes, and one on a display shelf between two train sets, and one in another room I use for storage. Then need to find somewhere to set them up. Probably should think of selling them. They are Williams and the power units I have installed TMCC and I think coil couplers.
Being a Buckeye myself ,those are true thoughts!Really stings that Ohio State lost to Michigan the last 2 seasons!
well here are my four Williams trainmasters, 2 power and 2 dummy units
the numbers 60 & 75 have ERR TMCC added the other two are the dummy units
Very cool!
Nice Smokey! And it looks like you ran them through the washing machine so they’d be nice and shiny clean for their portraits! [;)]
I have a Lackawanna, 2321. Price was reasonable.
Guy showed up in the driveway and handed it to me.
Then asked if I wanted the rest. Rolling stock (two milk cars with platform included) and two milk crates of 031 track and a dozen 022 and 042 switches, plus buildings. Bumpers, couple of handcars and 50 trolleys.
I found another shell, repainting to NP demonstrator because everything else is NP. Put the Lackawanna in the box, on a shelf.
Always wanted one, but unwilling to pay the price. Oh, and no cracked screwholes.
TOC
Sounds like you did well!
I have the Lionel RDG TrainMaster, but I’m working on it at the moment, so this isn’t the optimum time for a photo.
They have not seen much time out of there boxes
Will have to post pics of my 2321… got her as a beater, and even then she cost me more than any other single piece I’ve ever purchased. But I had to have one. For some reason the gray paint on the roof (and only the roof) has been flaking off, leaving behind lovely maroone. It might bother some folks, but personally I’m okay with it. Maybe some day the rest of the gray will finally flake away and it’ll look neat again!
I had a manual for a 2321 that came with a collection of trains I bought… but there was no 2321 in the collection. Absolutely killed me! Buying that 2321 was rectifing that grave injustice to my toy train collection. Boy can that engine pull.
-Ellie
OK, with much delay, here’s a basic pic of my trusty ol’ 2321!
To me, she occupies that special place in the collection known as ‘the locomotive that will pull anything like it was nothing’. I paid a pretty penny for her, but can’t say I regret the purchase. Also yes, the patchy grey paint on the roof is on top of the maroone paint, for the most part.
Some day I’ll get the horn working again- the horn itself is fine, but I need a new relay, and I’ll be making some sort of circuit to power the horn in place of a battery, both for convenience and because the battery holder was forever destroyed by a leaky battery somewhere in its life.
-Ellie
Grey paint on top of the maroon? That’s strange, it’s the reverse of the usual, a grey body with maroon paint, on the early ones anyway.
Look at it this way, it’s “weathered!”
Oh, yeah, leaky batteries were the bane of those post-wars!
Looks good!
Maroon was the first color painted on these. The shells were then masked for gray.
The thing I don’t get, is why only the paint on the roof had been flaking off. None of the gray paint elsewhere on the locomotive has the issue. It’s weird, but I’m not complaining. I’ve always preferred the look of the maroon roof. Again though, this is how it came to me. I thought it was interesting, having never seen this sort of thing before on a postwar item with a factory paint job. It was never going to be a “collector grade” item anyway, what with the battery damage, numerous small scuffs and chips to the paint, and the state of the railings. Me though? I’m an operator more than anything, and I find a bit of play wear to be charming, not an eyesore.
-Ellie
Hard to tell for sure from the photo, but the traces of maroon on the roof don’t appear to be a perfect match for the body striping. I think there’s a strong possibility someone custom painted the roof to resemble the first (and usually quite valuable) run Trainmaster. It’s doubtful that they were trying to do anything untoward, just a personal preference.
Becky, I don’t believe that to be the case. I can try to take more pictures tomorrow (if I don’t forgit!). I’m not an expert. All the same, I feel reasonably confident that all of the paint is factory applied. The flaky gray paint on the roof looks no different to me from the gray paint on the body of the locomotive (yeah, gray paint on top of maroon on top of gray plastic), and frankly I’m not sure why someone would try to re-gray a “forged” piece- better to mark it as a partial repaint than spend a lot of time and effort to match the original gray, apply it over the maroon, and then STILL have a partial repaint, albeit more authentic to the original.
Regardless, like many a train collector, I prefer the look of a maroon roof over a gray one… but I’d never be able to afford what people want for a postwar original. To me, it doesn’t matter which version it “really” is. It occupies a special place in my collection, and it’s not like I have any interest in selling it on (knock on wood) so there’s no need to overthink it. Right?
-Ellie
I agree with becky, unless the paint on top was protected from fading because of the paint over, they do look to be a different shade from each other, the roof being a little darker.
I’ll take another look tomorrow. I can’t tell from looking at my picture, if it’s a trick of the light, or something genuinely different. And I never really paid close attention to if the paint looked exactly the same on the sides and the roof, it never stood out to me. I will gladly report any and all findings!
-Ellie