I’ve noticed even before putting some kits together that the walls don’t block all the light. Once assembled with interior lighting, they will glow like the Chernobyl Valley Railroad. What’s the best way to prevent this?
Now that you know what’s causing it, you can paint the inside with a dark color paint before you assemble the structure…
Yup paint works, or you can also use dark construction paper as well if painting isnt an easy optiion…
Personaly, I think the look of the CVR would be pretty cool… thats funny…
Good luck
John k
Be sure that paper will not get too close to the light bulb and over heat.
Have fun
I use black paint. Got to make sure it’s applied evenly though, or spots will show through. I’ve found that one place where light will creep through is where walls join or roofs join to walls. If you don’t have a perfectly tight joint light will leak out. And so will the black paint if you apply it after assembling the building. A filet of epoxy or a piece of square styrene or stripwood, painted black and glued into the corners will stop the light. The best thing is to paint the inside of the walls black before assembling the kit, but I don’t always think of it in my hurry to get the kit assembled and see what it looks like.
I have a larger 12 volt bulb, the size of a flashlight bulb, mounted on a stick which I hold up inside the building after it’s assembled and painted to check for light leaks. If light from THAT bulb doesn’t get through, the light from the mini-bulbs sure won’t.
I usually use a basecoat of flat black on the inside and then cover that with another colored coat. Most of the interiors of my Railroad buildings are “peasoup greenish” (I think it is called Pullman green, not sure anymore) and the other building interiors vary, some are white, some yellow, some brown. Depends on how much interior you can see when the lights are on.
To me, it looks better than merely flat black. Many of my ceilings are gloss white or silver to reflect the light better.
Egg crating and diffusers from styrene, cardboard or thin ply can also change the effect of the lighting. Remember to use a bulb of lower voltagage rating than the max supplied, and your bulbs will last a lifetime.
Bob K.
I once had a white church that I put lights in. The whole building lit up like a christmas display, not what I had in mind. I found that if you paint the insides silver frist, then any color you like, the silver will block out the light. As mentioned eariler, make sure the corners are sealed or the silver paint will leak to the outside.
Wayne
In addition to the tips above, I like to block out a few windows in structures such as apartment buildings by either painting over or covering with cardstock or something. I sometimes put slits in the cardstock to make it appear that a bit of light can escape through either blinds or drapes. This way you have random windows some dark, some with light. As well for cheaper structures that don’t seem to match up perfectly at corners…etc (where light can escape) I seal these areas with a white silicone from the inside of the structure. Steve
Your tracks don’t run anywhere near 3 mile island do they? [:D]
I just use black paint on the insides of the buildings.
I just make a tube of paper that sits over the light, like a lantern globe. Quick and easy. It cuts down the intensity of the light enough that it doesn’t shine through the walls. Had buildings with these in em’ for 10 years on the old layout, no heat problems (use common sense)
I don’t think I have any lighted buildings that I haven’t painted. I just use spray cans to spray primer gray inside and out (Tamiya is very good) then either use spray cans or airbru***o paint the outsides a different color. The gray looks OK for the interior, can always go back on the primered gray interior walls and brush paint on another color if I want to.
On brick buildings, I paint the outside gray, then paint the bricks with art markers an overall brownish red, then use a small bru***o paint some of the bricks different colors - dark tuscan, light tuscan, brown, etc. The gray looks pretty good as mortar.
hazmat9 raises a very good point - rarely are all windows in a building lit. It’s much more realistic to block off “rooms” inside with some lit, some unlit. Different rooms should also have different intensities of light/color.
My pet peeve is seeing a building where the light source is obviously on the floor. Unless there’s a seance in progress…
Mike Tennent
Yes, definitely some rooms lit, some not, and some with dimmer light than others. In one of my houses, a bright light in the kitchen/living room area leaked into the bedroom area, showing dimmer through that window, which I felt was just the way it should be. I partition off the rooms with either black paper or styrene painted black. Some rooms get bulbs, some don’t. Also, I put curtains or shades on almost all my windows. Brown kraft paper makes good window shades. White paper with horizontal pencil lines can pass for venitian blinds. I use 12 volt miniature bulbs operated on 10 volts A.C. from a transformer. They should last the life of the layout on the reduced voltage.
Here’s something you might want to try. Just for an experiment, I added a porch light to one of the houses. I model in N scale, so I figured a scale-sized light fixture wouldn’t even be visible, so I just drilled a very small hole through the wall where I wanted the light and put a dab of paint around the hole to represent the fixture. Then I mounted a 1.5 volt microbulb directly behind the hole, with an appropriate dropping resistor. It made a very convincing-looking porch light.
Bob, I’ve posted several questions about lighting buildings recently and your last response was certainly one of the most useful. Thinking about partitioning interior rooms off, etc. is just common sense to experienced detailers but it isn’t to all of us who are new. The info about the 12 volt bulbs at 10 volts was helpful too. Thanks!
The light source is on the floor because the owner is underneath the benchwork doing wiring! [:)]
Has anyone tried lighting a building using white LED’s? It seems to be that using LED’s would allow several different light sources in each structure, the various intensities available would allow different levels of light and their long life would mean less maintenance.
Any thoughts?
Make sure the DCC address on your P2K atomic bomb is properly set[bow]
Dave
TCF511: Glad you found it useful. That’s what this forum is all about–people passing on tips because they’ve tried something and it’s worked. I couldn’t begin to tell you all the useful stuff I’ve picked up here. Further on the subject, I also put a “floor” in 2 story buildings and light rooms on each floor separately. But, when it gets that complicated, there’s a lot of rooms that don’t get lights because it becomes a jungle inside the building.
On some future buildings, I’m going to experiment with hanging bulbs from styrene rods fastened across at ceiling level, but that would mean removing a building to replace a burned out bulb. Being the cautious (paranoid?) type of person I am, I’ve made all my bulbs removable. I fasten the bulb to the end of a short wood or styrene rod which I insert into the building from under the layout. I position the bulb until its light looks just right then push a wedge into the hole to jam the rod in place. The bulb’s wires go to a solder terminal strip. If I ever have to replace the bulb, I just need to remove the wedge, pull it down, cut off the wires, and reverse the procedure to install the new one. I checked how hot the bulbs got on 10 volts A.C. and after an hour, they felt barely above ambient temperture to the touch, so I’m not concerned with them burning anything inside the buildings.
Dave Kelly: I’ve never tried white LEDs for general lighting, but considering that LEDs are a point source light, and even the wide-angle diffused LEDs don’t shine much out to the sides, and certainly nowhere near the 360 deg. illumination an incandescent bulb gives out, I don’t think they would work too well for general interior illumination. However, I’m sure there’s someone out there who has tried this and can give you better advice. You did give me an idea though. They should work well for my porch lights as that is a point of light. I’ll have to try that sometime. And I would think that they would work well for those industrial lights in the b
Bob
I read somewhere that if you heat the end of a fibre optic strand it will mushroom & form a bulb . This might work for a porch light. I am wondring if this method would also light a building? You would get light effect like a light bulb. I used to be able to buy frosted globes about the size of a pea. They where great for lighting as they gave a soft glow & did not shine through walls. I can’t find them anywhere. I wonder if they still makethem . Anyone know?
Tom