Hi every body.
I was looking for a manufactuer of the above in HO.,for my new switching shelf layout.I could not see any models in the current walters book. Can anybody help.
Patrick
What era? Atlas, Athearn and Walthers all have (or had) models of newer prototypes from the 1970s through today (with a bias toward more recent cars), while Atlas and maybe others had some smaller, older cars that were suitable for this service, and lettered appropriately.
Athearn: http://www.athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=339klpg+RTR&CatID=THRF
Atlas: https://secure.atlasrr.com/mod1/items.asp?Cc=H94&iTpStatus=0&Tp=&Bc=
Thanks for the info guys.
the period is 1970 to the present day with more leaning to the 90 s .I had forgotten that athearn are not in walters.
Regards
Patrick
Propane and LPG (Liquified Petroleum Gas) are one in the same. The Athearn cars are very nice, but are set for more present times also. I know they come with a few varieties of roof platforms.
Patrick,
If you are using the Walthers catelog, it will limit you to what is currently on their “in-stock” list which will really limit you. The older Atlas and Walthers LPG tank cars which are a best fit for you are largely out of production, but you can probably find them at train shows and on ebay so keep looking.
Atlas LPG 33k gallon tank cars were built in the mid-1960’s (these have a whale belly profile)
Walthers LPG 33k gallon tank cars were built in the 1970’s.
Athearn’s new LPG cars look like cars that were built in the late 1990’s and after year 2000 (very modern)
Tank cars over 20 years old would be getting fewer on the rails so if your modeling 1990’s, the Atlas style LPG would be rare by then. I’ve seen them on Rio Grande trains in the mid-1980’s but not many.
One of the fairly common long LPG tank cars I have not yet seen in HO are similar to the Walthers cars but have the roof walk running along one side of the tank rather than across the middle. Those seemed to be very common in the 70’s and 80’s but AFAIK, no model maker has made them. They would be a good candidate.
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Thanks for the info guys.
the period is 1970 to the present day with more leaning to the 90 s .I had forgotten that athearn are not in walters. Regards &
Many thanks for your detailed reply.I will keep a lookout on ebay for thegas tankers as it is a small shelf layout, all i need is a pair . We only have one train show in Dublin each year,my nearest shop is TRAIN WORLD 4000 MILES TO WEST,with some water in betwen.
best wishes to everybody in the USA.
PATRICK
I just visited Athearn’s website and the blow up of the LPG car photo’s appear to have build dates printed on the sides of the cars as early as 1992. Those are the ones with no conspicuity (reflector) striping at the top of the page showing what they are offering.
They are too new for me but if you are modeling past 1992, they might just fit.
Oh, sorry I just noticed you are in Ireland, so that will limit access but yes, keep a look out. My new wife is from the UK, but is a Geordie from the Newcastle area up north.
According to Athearn’s news release, the cars with ladders on the ends were first built in 1992. If his interest in mainly in the 1990s, then these should be suitable.
http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/12.15.09/05_lpg_early_121509.pdf
http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/032310/08_lpg_flat_032310.pdf
The cars with the ladders on the sides were first built in 1997.
http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/12.15.09/06_lpg_late_121509.pdf
Also, LPG used for heating may be mostly propane, however, it is not pure propane. Also, LPG can have numerous (theoretically infinite) combinations.
I have several of these Athearn tankers, and I must say the detail is outstanding. Of all the tankers available, Athearn is the best IMHO.
Hi guys.
I am pushing the envelope here,but was gas or is gas stored in horozontal tanks or the round speherical type, in storage depots i n small towns or citys.
Many thanks.
PATRICK
The small town (Iowa) tanks I have seen have all been horizontal cylinders.
For sure propane is stored in horizontal tanks. I’ve seen lots of that when driving in the countryside for my former job overseaning oil well plugging operations in New York, Pennsylvania and West Virginia.
It looks like LPG is transported in hoizontal tank rail cars, thus what we are looking to model. This is an interesting read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquefied_petroleum_gas
Google is your friend if you want to learn more. I don’t know how they do things in Ireland.
Many thanks everybody.
I have found some more info, on gogle and will study it.When i have the layout completed i will post the pictuers.
Bset wishes
Patrick
U.S. doesn’t really use the spherical gas storage tanks. I have really only seen them used on ships with the gigantor versions that store like 300 000 cubic meters of liquified gas. Generally I would also say a gas dealer wouldn’t be found in a small town, but my wife grew up in a small town of around 1000 perminent residents that has a petroleum gas company there. Last time we were throught there a few weeks ago there were 3 or 4 30K gal. tankers sitting on the unloading spur. I’m thinking of model this, which wouldn’t be too hard. An elevated platform with single hose to reach the top of the tank cars, some BLMA fence, and few gas storage tanks from Plastruct. That’s really all this place has. A tank loadout, a building for office and I’m assuming tank repair/maintainance, and more home storage tanks than the eye can see.
Good evening all.
I have found a very interesting site with gogle .
www.mdelrailroadfourms.com subject " tank car terminals " propane & fuel.There are some great pics for anybody modeling this subject.
All the best.
patrick
Spherical tanks do appear to be rare at small LPG terminals. However, they are common at NGL plants, oil refineries, and chemical plants.
I model the Santa Fe in Oklahoma, 1989, so my choices for LPG tanks is limited as Rio Grande mentioned, to Atlas and Athearn, but they fill the bill very nicely.
Bob