Proto 2000 Heritage 2-8-8-2 repair

You will get a lot of different answers to this one. I like Bondo spot filler for small spots and hiding seams. I use Milliput Yellow/Gray for filling.

I would ask for 50% if you can verify the model still runs OK. If running condition cannot be confirmed, I would ask for a full refund.

The description said “used”, not “inoperative”.

-Kevin

It runs although I have to have it drag the PCB behind it on the track(Remember the tender is from a Rivarossi Y6b and I havent gotten around to converting it yet)

In that case, if it is something you really want to work on, I think a 50% refund is appropriate.

If it is not a project you want to take on, I would return it for a full refund.

-Kevin

Part of what this comes down to is whether the broken drawbar is visible in any of the listing photos. Seller is likely to say ‘this was a project and the original drawbar would likely have to be replaced’ if it can be seen damaged in pictures.

If it was NOT broken, he should ask for a refund and have the seller go after UPS for whatever part of the $200, shipping and fees the seller insured it for.

Then see if the seller will do a BIN for a better agreed price for the damaged item if UPS lets the seller keep it and he will sell to you.

Just for reference the same seller sold one with original tender but with a few detail parts fallen off/broken(bell and mount, one of the holders for the bell pull, whistle, tender footboards) for 165 dollars

Drawbar was not visible in photos, but there were fragments in the box. Also, what is a BIN?

For sure, the damage is there. A partial refund is justifiable. Don’t wait too long if you are going that route… I agree with Kevin, as is, it’s probably worth 100$.

Installing a vestibule cab, such as the one from Precision Scale, will address the cab issue.

We can’t help much about the drawbar… But I can’t see that as being overly difficult. The fact that is runs is the bottom line!

Simon

It’s normal for detail parts to fall off. Not normal for big pieces of the cab to spall off.

BIN is eBay-speak for ‘Buy it Now’. You’re not supposed to reach a transaction outside the eBay system, so one way to buy something immediately is to agree with the seller on a price, and he then lists the item as ‘Buy it Now’ at that price… and lets you know so you’ll be the first to pounce when it appears.

[:$] You’re not alone. I just recieved an Ebay item, Pocher (late 60’s AHM-Riv.) JW Bowker, described as “Looks unused?” The question mark leaving a little room for error. Single blurry picture on description of reflective cello window hides a missing front wheel and drive line, obvious when holding it in hand. And that, I noticed before opening it up further and finding other obvious signs of wear and minor breakage-damage.

Sez seller doesn’t take returns, but I contacted him to request a partial refund. We’ll see… Dan

Alright everybody, I filed a claim with UPS 2 days ago. Hopefully this goes well. I only claimed 150 dollars though.

I hear ya. Been there. I only buy things that are reported as “running well”, and those with a high satisfaction rate. What really gets to me is the “box only” offers. If my suspicions are correct, many people bid without reading carefully, and end up with an empty box. Ebay should ban these.

Simon

That’ll be quite alright if you get to keep the engine , no?

I decided that the seller, not being a mrr wouldn’t have spotted the flaws, and upon closer inspection, it wasn’t missing details, they were never there on that early version . It’s actually in pretty good shape for a 55 year old plastic body model. I have the missing front wheel rim and can make the drive shaft. I’m good with it.

Simon, I almost fell for that empty box trick once. That would have been some EXPENSIVE air! Dan

I’ve seen that happen with brass train boxes, start out low but are auctions so some people probably bought some really pricy foam and carboard.

UPS has not given any updates and the claim has disappeared from the dashboard. I still can find it, but I can’t do anything…

well, got my return approved. now I just have to find a replacement.