Hi all,
I’ve been working on my Ho-scale model of the San Francisco Chief, circa about 1969, and have collected a lot of different manufacturers’ equipment for it. The two cars I need more info for though, are the “Blue” series 10-3-2 sleepers (Pullman Plan 4145, I believe), and the “Valley” series 6-6-4 (plan 4099) sleepers. Does anyone have the floorplans for these online? I’ve Googled, I’ve searched at the local libraries, no luck.
Any help would be greatly appreciated! [:)]
A lot of Pullman drawings are at the Martha Briggs Newbury Library in Chicago but I do not know which ones. I would suspect that the ATSF historical society could help you out easily.
Valley Series: Pullman Sleeping Car Plan 4099. Mainline Modeler, November, 1991, p. 42-45. Photos of two-tone gray paint, drawings of sides, underbody, ends, and floor plan.
Dave Nelson
Well there are a couple of books out there that have Pullman plans, they may be out of print but you should be able to find them somewhere. I’d have to check at home for the publisher, but in the early nineties there were some oversize hardcover books on Pullman cars, one just about Pullman Palace cars, another with a listing of Pullman cars by car name. I know too there are/were some books published that describes passenger cars by railroad or groups of railroads, I remember seeing them in the flyer for Perry’s Hobbies.
Thanks for the responses, everyone. [:)]
Okay, so I have the 4099 covered now. Now I guess I’ll see what I can find for the Blue series.
Thanks!
Hi “Arjay,”
One source for “Blue”-series floor plans is “The Official Pullman-Standard Library, Volume 1, Santa Fe,” by David W. Randall, published in 1986 by Railway Production Classics. This is one of those out-of-print books that an earlier poster referred to, but it’s a terrific reference on the Santa Fe’s Pullman-Standard lightweights.
Good luck,
Andy
Andy,
MANY thanks! Now I at least know where to look. Now to find a copy of the book somewhere. I’ve already checked with the local libraries (I’m actually surprised that the Texas A&M library doesn’t have a copy), no joy.
Thanks!
Edit - Someone has copies available on Amazon. Looks like I know what I’m buying with this month’s hobby budget! [:D]
10-3-2 1947 Pullman 19 cars “BLUE”
10 roomette-3 double bedroom-2 compartment
pix, plans Santa Fe Modeler MarApr81 p.11
pix, plans Pullman-Std.Library,Vol.1 p.115-120,XV.
pix “Blue Lake”, Santa Fe Diesels & Cars p.44
pix “Blue Flag”,“Zephyr to Amtrak” p.8
drawing, floor plan, Amtrak Car Diagrams,p.67
pix “Blue Water”, ATSF Color Guide to Frt & Pass Eqpt p.13
pix “Blue Point” left side in brass car side ad
Warbonnet 4Q 1998 p.29
N model: JnJ #344-0035 pix N Scale JulAug98 p.15
6-6-4 1942 Pullman 26 cars “VALLEY”
6 section-6 roomette-4 double bedroom smooth sides/roof
identical plan to Union Pacific “American” series
pix,plans,Pullman-Std.Library,Vol.1 p.72-76,VIII.
names & re-numberings,
Quarter Century of Santa Fe Consists,p.206
floor plan, “Car Names, Numbers & Consists” p.191
model pix N-scale “Pecos Valley” from Kato car in shadowline paint
ModRRer Feb96 p.158
N model: Brass Car Sides, Pullman Standard plann 4099 6-6-4
…2-tone paint scheme as built, upper-berth windows
photo Walthers HO model, review Warbonnet1stQ 05 p.28
“Cimarron Valley”,Santa Fe Diesels & Cars p.42
“Cimarron Valley”, Santa Fe Modeler MayJun86 p.16
“Estancia Valley” SF Streamliners: Chiefs & their Tribesmen p57
“Estancia Valley” in 2-tone gray, 1960 pix Warbonnet 4Q97 p.11
“Mescalero Valley”.Santa Fe Diesels & Cars p.42
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