Can somebody who owns some of these ---- the 932-10xxx cars — tell me: do they have air conditioning ducts on both sides of the roof, or only one side?
Reason I ask: I am looking to kitbash a very specific car that had a duct only one one side!
The ducting on most HW cars was a ‘add on’ later in their service life. The ducting was usually run down one side only, unless there were specific cooling requirements. I have all of the HW cars - Which one are you looking at?
Jim
I have several already.
Ditto to jrbernier’s post.
That is what I would have guessed — one side only. So can I conclude from what you wrote that all the ones you have are ducted on one side only?
To answer your question, I haven’t decided which one I want to use as my kitbashing starting point — I have to study the window arrangements and decide which one is closest. I notice the photos in Walthers on line catalog show the widnow arrangements clearly.
Tom,
Went home for lunch, so I pulled out my cars:
o - 12-1 There is ducting down both sides, but it is shorter on the side with the aisle. This makes sense as the 12 sections are open, and require A/C on both sides. The compartment has A/C, but the aisle has no ducting over it.
o - 8-1-2 Very similar. A shorter duct on the side with the open sections, and then no ducting over the aisle opposite the compartments/bedrooms.
o - 14 section All open sections, full ducting down the roof on both sides, exceprt for the aisles opposite the bathroom on one end.
One has to remember that most of these cars were built without A/C and it was added later. The ductwork could have varied for cars of the same class, but I suspect there was a ‘standard’ to the application(like everything Pullman did).
Jim
932-10252 (observation) has the air conditioner ducts all the way down on the right hand side, no ducting at all on the left.
Sorry that is the only one I have at my finger tips. All others are in storage.
The ducting is road specific as well as tailored to the requirements of the particular car (sleeper, diner, coach etc).
The Walther’s HW in B&O are some of the first plastic to have it almost right .
Bob K.
Guys: thanks for all the information in response to my question.
What prompted this, what I am looking to do, is a kitbash of a very specific parlor car to diner conversion done by the New Haven in the 1950s — a kitbash of a kitbash, one might say. To make this proect relatively simple I need to start with two conditions: something close to the right window arrangement, and an AC duct on one side only. I can get a good idea of the existing window arrangement options by looking at photos of the cars in Walthers on line catalog. The answer to the AC duct I had to ask about!
What may yet wind up doing is waiting until they come out with the HW 28ch-1DR parlor car that they have announced. It looks from the artist’s rendering that the window arrangement may be workable. What the AC duct structure will be — well, who can say until the car comes out! A parlor car was a large open area, not partitioned like a sleeper, so it is at least likely this car will be ducted on one side only.
The problem with that option will be that the New Haven’s “12-inch scale kitbash” started with a 36 ch parlor, not a 28ch-1DR one, so the window arrangement won’t be exact in any case. But as you all know, kitbashing is an inexact science.