Railroad Navys

Back in the day, many railroads had Navy’s - tugs and car floats and lighters to conduct their maritime interface with ships at anchor and ships at dock as well as freight opeations at locations that were not directly connected to line haul roads.

Most all of these operations ceased in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s - sending the equipment to the ship breakers, scrap yards and other owners.

It would be interesting if someone had the inclination to write a factual article on the ending of these opeations and follow the disposition of the equipment.

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Indeed, that is a missing piece of Railroad history…while there are numerous write ups and photo’s of individual operations a comprehensive book on this would be a real boon to all of us.

It is a marvellous and fascinating part of Railroad operations, from tiny Central Vermont to giant Pennsy and NYC.

Great picture by the way!

Notice what’s in the left background of that tugboat photo?

PS: Got to be the 1970’s or thereabout. I didn’t think B&O tugs lasted that long.

A good site on New York-area operations is at http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/IndustrialLocos.html

They lasted until the middle 70’s. When I was Asst. Trainmaster at Locust Point yard in Baltimore we had to load the car float that moved cars to and from Fells Point. Crew had to hold onto 7 idler cars to switch cars to/from the car float as the weight of the engine would have sunk the end of the car float.

North West- That is quite the website…going to take a while to get through all that…terrific stuff.

I always thought the B&O blue/gray livery was handsome, but I have to say, that is a smart looking tug boat too.

For interested parties, the Lehigh Valley tug Cornell still exists and can be chartered.

http://www.tugboatcornell.com/ Also, the Lackawanna ferry the Binghamton, retired and converted to a restaurant many years ago is getting scrapped as I write this. A business venture that died, followed by many years of neglect. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/27/nyregion/binghamton-hudson-river-ferryboat.html?_r=0.

At South Street Seaport in New York City, the seaport information booth is the pilot house from a New York Central tugboat. http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-new-york-central-tugboat-wheelhouse-30237477.html

B&O tugs - Howard E Simpson, Roy B White & William C Baker

AMES!! Paging Leo Ames!

Surely there are folks on boatnerd who have links to much, if not all, the information one could desire … or know further people who do.

Did 'ya know those New York Central tugboats were steam-powered right to the end?

Looks like NYC steam didn’t die with the Hudsons, at least not right away.

Canadian Pacific had a very interresting maritime operation. They operated a good sized fleet of passenger liners so that a person could get from England to Canada by Atlantic liner, Quebec City to Vancouver by rail and then from there to asian ports by Pacific liner. Probably the most famous of these liners was the Empress of Ireland that went down after a collision in the fog in 1914 with a loss of life equal to the Titanic disaster 2 years earlier. Events in Europe that erupted a few weeks after the disaster overshadowed the sinking and people soon forgot about the thousand lives lost that night.

http://www.thegreatoceanliners.com/index2.html

Don’t overlook Canadian Pacific Air Line that operated from 1942 to 1987

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Pacific_Air_Lines

OT?

Memories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgPg9wt-c8U

Thank You.

Erie also had a small carfloat operation on the Chicago River. It’s mentioned in Hilton’s “The Great Lakes Car Ferries”.

Quite a few, here.

http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/General/Ferries.htm

Thank You.

-NDG- Great addition to my digital library. The Port Burwell area was very close to where I grew up. All of South Western Ontario was criss crossed with branch lines, many to Lake Ports and very very little remains. It is astonishing actually.

They still talk about the Ashtabula in Port Burwell…

Still has a great beach and great burgers and fries on those hot summer days by Lake Erie. Magical.

For Port Burrell, please read Port Burwell!

John

cx500- Yes thanks, edited to correct. It happens, even when you proofread …you see what you want to see at times.

Had a nice discussion on Port Burwell on Classic Trains forum a while back…it’s a very old community, with an Anglican Church dating to the 1830’s. Lots of old railroad habitats along the North Shore of Lake Erie.

Nearby a bit East was the old Grand Trunk, then CNR, into Port Dover and Port Rowan to meet the Bessemer and Lake Erie lake freighters.