Allan –
Doesn’t your topic violate the “No politics or religion” policy that Bergie has in effect here?
I don’t think it has anything to do with Amtrak. I think you are just trying to start some trouble.
[#ditto]
last time I checked it this was a Trains forum, not US News and World Reports
Which Clinton is is running again? is it the one with the longer hair?
Aw, give the young kid a break. It isn’t like there aren’t other OT posts on this forum. At least he had the courtesy to label it “Off Topic”, which is more than what some other threads have contained. [4:-)]
Ok, I agree it violates the rules since it’s politics. But Amtrak is run by our government and that can be considered politics too. Let’s give a chance with a short leash.
So, I guess the questions is, why is Amtrak going to be better because Mrs. Clinton is running for President in 2008? Or, why would Amtrak be better if she was elected in 2008? New York has a lot of Amtrak service, but that service was there before she was elected as a state senator. Right? What about Obama? He’s the state senator from Illinois where they just increased Amtrak service. I don’t know what his stance is on public transportation.
Overall, I think that it’s becoming apparent that we need a viable mode of transportation that’s alternative to the car or plane. High speed rail is gaining momentum in certain markets. Who’s going to be the first politician to stick their toes in the water to suggest who’s going to pay for it?
CC
She could not run 50 feet with those legs of hers.
Is it this one?
Now we know why politics are off limits…
CC
Aunt Hill throwing her hat in the ring for a 2008 run will have no effect on Amtrk at all. Don’t be fooled.
[sigh]Too bad Bergie will kill this. With 20+ months until the November 2008 election, this could be an idea topic for a wager pool. Closest to the number of posts as of the closing of the polls wins.
Yowsers! If this thread ran until 2008 elections, I’m sure we could get at least 20,000 posts out of it. [4:-)]
Yer on!!!
He’s 33, believe it or not.
Ummm, maybe I misremember, but I thought I recalled a post a few months ago that he was a teenager, like 17 or something.
Jay, we couldn’t even run the diner up to 20K.
For someone else, Hilary and Barak are U.S. Senators, not state senators. Not that it’s germane to this thread or anything. Either one, if elected, might take some of the heat off Amtrak, but that’s about it.
Well, she’s gonna’ have to get Obama’s color picture off the front page of the Chicago papers to have a chance.
It’s unbelievable with this guy. Everything he does rates a front page color photo. The Sun-Times gave him basically the full front page in color last week. And I’ve never seen a reporter ask him a tough question. It’s like they are teenagers and he’s their rock star.
When he was running for Senator the Chicago Tribune basically destroyed his oponent by getting sealed divorce papers unsealed and revealing that he had once asked his ex-wife to do something naughty. (She said “NO”, and that was that until the Trib decided that sexual matters do matter if they involve a Republican.)
It’s bad enough the existence of Amtrak divides this board between those who want it to live and grow and those who want to see it die, but to drag politics in to this forum breaks the spirit of this community. Saying Senator Clinton’s support for Amtrak is relavent enough for this board is really treading on thin ice. We are here because we love trains, not because we are for one political party or another.
In any case, it’s really up to Congress whether Amtrak lives or dies or get more or less money. The power lies in the people, not the president. George Bush or [FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION] president Hillary Clinton can say Amtrak should have this amount of money or that amount of money, but ultimiately Congress will settle on a final amount. Of course President Bush or [FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION] President Clinton could aprrove or veto the spending bill it is part of, but as we know any presidential veto can be overridden by a congressional vote (hence the power still lies with the people). The only thing the President can really do is recommend to Congress a vision and direction a particular policy or program should go.
True, but she probably uses her knees for the same purpose that Monica Lewinsky did.
I doubt it, or else why would we know about Monica?
LC
Insightful and likely true. If she is as lousy a President as she is a Senator, we are all in a lot of trouble…
And her alleged support for Amtrak hasn’t improved Amtrak service in NY State at all…
LC