Nice…
I think this is a very bad move; as you are seen to be supporting grafitti artists and that is not good for yourself or your country.
I am against grafitti and i do not support it in any way, in my opinion if they did what they do in Singapore where they have stamped it right out; the world would be a better place. They gave an American teenager, i think from Ohio; a hiding with a paddle and this is the punishment they have there for all and they have no grafitti and it is a pleasure to see.
Rgds ian
It was a caning. Imagine getting smacked across the back with a piece of cane!!! I’ll bet he won’t do it again.
underworld
iandor, I am not a supporter of graffiti (I hate it), but graffiti has become a symbol in modern-day equipment. The more graffiti, the longer the cars been working. So it makes perfect sense to add graffiti to ones model train rolling-stock. If I was doing a modern-day line, I would add graffiti to my cars. Make them look real.
Same here.
I would never graffitti my locos though.
i am not making it seem like it is a good thing i am just semply saying i add it to my layout because i have a more modern layout,
now simply no one would have a steam engine with graffiti, that is plane stupid, this topic is strictly for your graffiti on trains not opinions, thankyou
RAVE
Would you mind sharing your techniques then?
Such as…[D)]
Rave, I myself about a year ago now, tried to mentoin graffity on this form. I found it not to be a good thing. I don’t support it but as it has been mentioned it is a fact of modern railroads like it or not. I to was shot do by most on the forum. I might sudgest keepi9ng it to yourself and enjoying it. AThis is what I have done. There is no one person to tell you what to model. Please have a educated time here as well as teaching others the hobby. Thanks and reguards.
thanks, it makes the trains look real,[8D]
The thing that really irks me about model RR graffitti is not that the prototype is illegal but that most people who model graffitti seem to be kind of selfish in terms of their technique. Now when it’s about modeling water, or making mountains, weathering or superdetailing, everybody shares their techniques and posts how-tos.
I model the modern era and I’d like to know how to graffitti some of my cars. I haven’t the slightest idea what paint to use, what tools, etc. I’ve had the same experience on other forums.
Now if you’re running a side business doing graffitti weathering and want to preserve some trade secrets, I perfectly understand. But even those who do graffitti weathering for a business (check out http://www.griffsgrimeshop.com )
Griff himself even does workshops at train shows on how to do it.
If you seriously want graffitti weathering to be accepted in the MRR world you’re gonna have to share your techniques. If you’re gonna continue to be selfish about it then don’t complain when someone puts your skill down as “degenerate riff-raff modeling.”
Pay no attention to RAVE, Ian. He is doing this intentionally to iritate those of us who see graffiti for the vandalisim it is. He already got one thread on the subject locked.
With that said, his technique is not true to his source material and his “tagging” is way out of scale.
As cars go without repaint they end up being a unintelligeble mass of tags upon tags upon tags. The large “billboard” tags that he has show are definitely the exception rather than the rule.
Another problem with “tagged” cars, especially on layouts designed to operate, is that they are “special” - just like a car with modeled “damage” and are easily remembered. When such a car is put in a train heading off layout to Sheboygan and yet shows up in another train later in the same operating session, it sort of ruins the effect.
He also seems to be something of a “one trick pony” as I have yet to see him share anything other than his “tagged” freight cars.
As for his “technique” which he seems reticent to share, it may be as simple has having his dad send his drawing off to a custom decal maker. [(-D]
-George
Here’s some pics of mine.
here is a step by step procedur of what i do to make my graffiti, this is the fast way, and it is not one of my best but here it is.
first you get any kind of blank sticker, label, sticker paper, etc
insert it in the printer( pretty easy)
then get any type of grafitti, then copy it and paste it onto microsoft PAINT
then take the eraser tool and white out all around it, and copy it again
the paste it into microsoft Word
then make it smaller to fit the size of the boxcar]
and then print it once you have it the size you want it
once your done with all that hard computer stuff you want to cut the graffiti out
choose a car and where the graffiti is going to be on the car i chose a boxcar and down in the left bottom corner.
then unpeal it
stick it on peice by peice
then tak the nail of your finger and press down on the bottom of the sticker.
also press along the inforcers
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Oh boy, here we go again. I give this topic about 4 more hours before it gets locked, too.
Edit: oh wait… make that 12 hours (stupid time zone difference!)
wow thanks…veryinteresting, I never would have thought of that. I always thought the white sections were white paint or liquid paper and the rest of the markings were done with a Sharpie.
Very interesting though I’m in N scale, the sticker paper might come out too thick, but I might try it on a wall or something (a wall on my layout, that is…heheh). Are you sure you don’t feel like your trains are running around with a bunch of stickers?
Another way to add realism to a modern layout would be to model the scene of a fatality after a graffiti vandal gets struck and killed by a train. You could feature the police cleaning up the mess, the ambulance crews treating the traumatised train crew, and the passengers waiting hours for alternate transport to eventually get home. All of this would add a profound sense of realism…
[#ditto]
What he said! I model grafitti as well. There’s nothing wrong with it being on a layout.
Not on my railroad. I don’t think spray paint cans were invented yet…
Tom
Nice job RAVE[:)] And to those who find graffiti objectionable on models- I definitely agree that it’s sad to see real equipment plastered in this crap, but IMHO modeling it is perfectly fine… It’s not hurting any real equipment, it adds to the “grimy”, “real life” look that we try to acheive…Sorry if i’m going on a tangent…
Dave