Rivarossi 2-6-6-6

Hi. Got an e-mail from Walthers last night showing of these beauty:

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/635-HR2006

But it doesn’t say if it have DCC or even a 8-pin plug or anything? Anyone who knows?

Also how good is Rivarossi?

Lillen

its the rivarossi model.

all the reintroduced stock has 8 pin plugs but not DCC unless its specified.

Its a nice model although i still think the price is a bit steep. £200 is alot of money for any loco. alot of people still treat them like the old italian produced models. its worth taking another look and not judging them withought actually seeing it and seeing it run.

Peter

Older Rivarossi models were good for their time, but by now are pretty well outdated. But th 2-6-6-6 is a newer model, very litttle if anything in common with old Rivarossi. Excellent detail, 8-pin DCC plug. But the details are extremely fragile. If you pick one up, the chances are good that you’ll break a piping coil, or another detail. It shouldn’t be that fragile, and wouldn’t be had Rivarossi not used styrene plastic for the fine details; it should have employed delrin, which is resistant to fracturing under pressure.

Keep in mind that Rivarossi is no longer an independent, Italy-based producer of models. It’s a division of Hornby, the British model train manufacturer, which itself may be owned by another corporation. If I’m not mistaken, the Rivarossie 2-6-6-6 is built in China.

“Hornby, the British model train manufacturer, which itself may be owned by another corporation.”

No they are an independant company.

BUT they do own scalextric, Electrotren, lima, Rivarossi, Jouef, Airfix, humbrol etc…

They have done an awfull lot of buying over the past few years and have actually had pretty little to show for it.

I used to keep saying “give them 5 years” but i found i had been saying that for a long time and still nothing. on this side of the pond we are yet to see a single advert for the continental or the US range. they have such a huge catalouge now i really think its about time they had something to show for it.

Peter

Lillen

I just got mine last Saturday and test run it on my test track and it runs like a swiss watch right out of the box. I have not opened the tender up but the paperwork shows a 8-pin plug for the DCC. I have to agree that the detail is extremely fragile but I make it a point to always be careful how I pick up any model even brass steam. I have waited since the first Allegheny’s were released to get one of these engines and I wasn’t going to miss out this time. I am wiring a 8-pin plug on a Tsunanmi sound decoder right now and hope it works. The wiring being already done from the engine to the tender already helps a lot. Jim

Here is a link to the Hornby website and the “service sheet”

http://www.hornby-usa.com/pdf/HR2006%20ALLEGHENY%20SERVICE%20SHEET.pdf

I think this thread will help your decision.

http://www.trains.com/TRC/CS/forums/1018203/ShowPost.aspx

Happy modeling!

Lillen–

I have the first run (pre-Hornby) model of the Rivarossi Allegheny, and it’s just a SUPERB loco–quiet, smooth, incredible control, BEAUTIFULLY detailed, and it will pull just about anything you want to put behind it, even when the traction tires wear out! I will agree that some of the details are quite delicate, so use care when handling the loco, but the quality is pretty darned incomparable–especially to any of the other earlier Rivarossi locos.

Just a GORGEOUS loco in my opinion.

Tom

Help!

I have the HR2006 model and it seems to have a short in it. I recently read that some of the models were wired incorrectly. Needless to say, I tried the link that was supplied in an effort to get the service sheet for the HR2006 model but information for the HR2051 model with Lok Sound comes up. Does anyone know if the units are identical with exception to the DCC and sound module?

I believe they are Delrin, Ivan, as they are quite flexible. Styrene would be far too brittle for molding this fine, and I haven’t had any parts break off in my hands.

If you want fragile detail try a Proto 2K, in spite of the fact that it’s Delrin.

Magnus, guys, I have a confession to make.

Last September, I said to my wife that I had purchased my last engine…strictly a one-for-one replacement from now on when one of them was not repairable. And I was good about my word. I wasn’t even sneaking looks at sites seeing if there were any good deals…honest! I was happy and enjoying what I had.

Then, I got an email today. It was from Caboose Hobbies with a notification that they had shipped my order. SAY WHAAAT?! I called and told them there was a mistake. Nope, they said, back in August when they called to offer me a substitute for the Duplex order (different road number), I said no thanks, and asked if I could change my order to an H-8 with sound when they came out (I had the Duplex and had forgotten about the order at Caboose [V]). A bell went off. They had said sure, and I went through Christmas happy to get the “last” engine on my list, the Y6b from Factory Direct, and forgot all about the H-8. I had thought it would be many months until they came available with DCC/sound aboard.

I’m in deep doodoo, but can’t seem to stop grinning. Am I sick? [#wstupid]

That’s you’re story, and you’re sticking to it! [:-,]

I can’t say if you’re sick, but you might be black & blue when the CEO finds out. [B)]

Crandell.

Congratulations I guess! [:D]

Now, on this forum their so no need to keep a straight face, come on tell us the truth, the wife isn’t here! [:D]

I’ve been tempted by one of these since they where released, sooner or later I will get one since my ambition is to have one of each wheel arrangement.

Now I demand, demand I tell you that you post a few pics on this beast when it hits your layout. [:D] I think it is a beauty.

Magnus

Maybe $200 is a lot of money for a loco, but I confess that I was looking longingly at this baby (A brass Norwegian State Railroad Type 32 2-6-2 Steam engine) in a LHS over here yesterday:

Price tag said NOK 9000 ($1700) …

It is probably worth every cent too - to the right buyer. But I walked out of the store with a bottle of plastic cement, a new xacto knife and a new Xuron track cutter.

Grin,
Stein

Hi Lillen, I agree with twhite 100%, I too have the first run (preHornby) Allegheny and would compare it to any brass locomotive for detail, smooth quiet and a strong runner. I’m trying to decide whether to get another one (non sound equipped so I can mu them and pull everything I own)…

Andrew

Don’t intend to rob your fun with that model, and I, too, think that it is nice and well detailed, but it is far away from any brass Allegheny except AKANE (but even this isn’t ugly…). I have compared the RIVAROSSI with the FUJIYAMA piece which is much more detailed although it has been built in 1979, and the later OMI and KEY versions are even slightly ahead of FUJIYAMA concerning detail. On the RIVAROSSI there is missing a lot and even something is wrong (e. g. the position of the excentric cranks).

Sorry but your statement leads me to the assumption that you have seen very few brass models up to date, or am I wrong?

Stein, I urge you to use my ruse…I mean mistake…it’s not copyrighted.

LOL [:D]

Guess I won’t have to. A friend ordered one for himself today. I hope that if I work on my “begging pityfully” look until it is delivered (in august), maybe I will get a chance to see the engine being operated on his layout.

Grin,
Stein

Stein, of all the folks on this forum, you are the one fella I know who would set himself a goal and drive until it was a reality. [:D]

-Crandell

Edit - if the image you have provided is a decent enough indication, I understand you and your friend entirely. I am not one for European engines since they are somewhat at odds from my mental prototype, as you would understand, but you have my solid agreement that this one engine is a real honey. It has really nice lines, and looks “balanced” in an undefined way.

Oh, go on…you know you’re only fooling yourself. [:P]