| OR | Portland | 45° 29’ 28" N | 122° 38’ 45" W |
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| OR | Portland | 45° 38’ 58" N | 122° 41’ 10" W |
The first one is the current home of SP4449 and SPS700. They’ll be moving shortly though, as UP needs the space they’re in.
The second coordinate is actually in Vancouver, WA, just a bit north of Portland, OR.
43-33-12N and 96-43-13W will bring up the 2-stall roundhouse of the IC in Sioux Falls,SD. It’s now an auto parts yard. Turntable gone.
Milwaukee had a nice large roundhouse and turntable just across the river to the NW. Unfortunately indigents managed to burn it to the ground one cold winter night a few years ago. The city was planning to save it.
Three turntables on the Long Island Rail Road:
NY Greenport 41° 05’ 57.26N 72° 21’ 50’’ W
NY Jamaica 40° 41’ 46.46N 73° 49’ 23.90’'W
Turntable & roundhouse both still in service, transfer table missing
NY Oyster Bay 40°52’29.04’’ N 73° 31’ 42.92’'W
I think these were the only turntables on the post WW II LIRR, most places had a wye for turning.
Jim
Nuremberg, Germany - DB - 2 half roundhouses side by side with turntables, first one the leads are electrified for electric locomotives
49° 24’ 50.26" N 11° 05’ 17.16" E
The second is used for diesels
49° 24’ 47.89" N 11° 05’ 22.83" E
Hamburg-Wilhelmstadt - DB mostly abandoned
53° 30’ 40.90" N 10° 00’ 23.32" E
Hamburg-Eidelstedt Freight Yard Roundhouse with turntable, notice the long building for servicing ICE high-speed trainsets immediately to the south.
53° 36’ 28.84" N 9° 52’ 52.78" E
Meiningen, Germany - DB Roundhouse with turntable
50° 34’ 25.79" N 10° 25’ 17.60" E
Meiningen, Germany - DB Steam locomotive works -home of DB’s operating steam collection and one of the most capable steam workshops in the Western World. Roundhouse with turntable
50° 34’ 54.21" N 10° 25’ 09.79" E
Hanau, Germany - DB remains of two roundhouses each with a turntable one above the other
50° 06’ 54.33" N 8° 56’ 28.92" E
Neuenmarkt-Wirsberg, Germany - German National Steam Museum, Roundhouse with Turntable
50° 05’ 37.50" N 11° 34’ 54.93" E
Bremen, Germany - DB remains of two Roundhouses with Turntables
53° 05’ 08.85" N 8° 48’ 33.94" E
Lübeck, Germany - DB Roundhouse with Turntable filled in.
53° 51’ 45.77" N 10° 39’ 30.48" E
Rostock, Germany - DB Roundhouse with Turntable
54° 04’ 52.00" N 12° 08’ 46.39" E
Wismar, Germany - DB Remains of Roundhouse with Turntable
53° 53’ 50.65" N 11° 28’ 07.32" E
Kiel, Germany - DB Roundhouse with Turntable
54° 18’ 25.32" N 10° 07’ 40.02" E
Stralsund, Germany - DB THREE Roundhouses with Turntables
54° 17’ 56.85" N 13° 05’ 07.68" E
Szczecin, Po
I don’t see the roundhouse and turntable in Chadron, NE. on the list. It has been purchased and it and the line to it has received a grant to make upgrades to put it back into service as a contract railroad equipment facility.
There was once a turntable at the Louisville, GA end of the Louisville & Wadley Railroad, at approximately:
32 59 44.77N 82 24 33.60W
Based on research by Steve Flanigan and published in the Cental of Georgia Railway Historical Society’s “The Right Way,” the turntable existed into the late 1940s. Flanigan wrote, “In 1948, a wye was built at a cost of around $900.00, and the deteriorated turntable, pit and spur were torn up.”
The turntable is depicted on an undated Sanborn map copy segment I got from Steve some years ago.
i note that you list only ONE turntable/roundhouse in mexico, presumably the one at the yard north of mexico city… i live near guadalajara in the winter, and noted when they tore down the old NdeM roundhouse in guadalajara about 10 years ago - AND REPLACED IT WITH A BRAND-NEW 24 STALL ROUNDHOUSE AND A NEW, LONGER TURNTABLE AT THE EXACT SAME SPOT! miracles will never cease! it’s southheast about a kilometer from the passenger station. i’m pretty sure the one at san luis potosi is still in use, and i’ve visited several others in my searches for mexican steam locomotives. (J.David Conrad lists 101 in his ‘directory’, but i can’t find 12 of those. however, i’ve found 16 that he doesn’t mention!) -arturo
There was one in Walla Walla. All that’s visible are ash pits, etc. and a radial pattern. Try 46.070957,-118.354517
I should say concerning the Walla Walla, WA, remains that they are visible on the ground, but not so much by satellite.
Lots to catch up on!
CShaveRR: Thanks. I not only found some more, but found a mistake in my list because of your list. The mistake was that I had Clifton Falls as being in PA, not VA, so PA lost one and VA gained TWO (as I found a 2nd one not far from the one I already had). As for the majority of the towns/cities in your list, I often found little or no evidence that a RR ever existed there! Some places are so small and on the side of a hill/mountain and have no room that I can see, to have anything level enough and wide enough to hold a turntable! (Unless maybe the engine was stood on one end, twisted 180-degrees and then layed back down to face the other way! [:D] ) A couple of the names would not resolve to a town or city on Google Earth, it would zoom out to a several hundred square mile area.
AndredDickey: Thanks. Found the one at Yorktown Heights, but at Croton-on-Hudson there is just absolutely nothing to be found. The earliest historical image seems to be just after the majority of the housing was built. But in the looking around due to your post, I found evidence of a Roundhouse is Salamaca.
Pepper378: Thanks. Already had the Brooklyn RH in Portland, but have now added the TT in Vancouver.
choo-choo-wayne: Thanks, Added them both!
Jim_In_Fla: Thanks. Added all 3. I can see what I believe to be the transfer table and associated buildings in the historical views, So I have added that too.
Beaulieu: Thanks! WOW… lots to add. Interesting sets of 3 roundhouses.
ogre427: Thanks, it is there now! I actually had it in my Google Earth file, but apparently missed transferring it to my Excel file, which I am posting from.
SheldonLWfan: Thanks, but sorry, I cannot find any evidence of exactly where a Turntable or Roundhouse was. I can’t even find any evidence of RR right of way anywhere in the area. The closest R
The updated info:
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53° 5’10.88"N |
8°48’28.24"E |
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Glad I could help. By the way, it’s Clifton Forge, Virginia, not Clifton Falls.
If you’d like, list the West Virginia locations that are troublesome to you, and I’ll see what I can do for them. I am not familiar with the location system you’re using, but should be able to bring you a little closer.
WHY did I type “FALLS”??? [:$] I got it right on the list… (even if I am having trouble with the formating of the data for several of the German and Mexican cities.)
I am using Degrees, Minutes, Seconds E/W or N/S. But Google Earth can accept Degrees and fractions of a degree (the displayed coordinates are shown in a user selected format… See the Google Earth Tools|Options menu.)
Okay… West Virginia locations:
Ronceverte: I see a RR and small yard, but my best guess is if there was a roundhouse it is now a baseball diamond.
Marlinton: No evidence of a rail yard.
Stone Cliff: Google Earth zooms out to include Ohio, Virginia, Kentucky and Pennsylvania. There is a Stone Cliff Bridge over a river that has a RR under it that follows the river, but no communities near that area.
Meadow Creek: Yard to the south and a Wye junction to the north but no evidence of a turntable or roundhouse.
Nallen: no evidence of a yard at all.
Gauley Bridge: No evidene of a yard at all.
Pratt: Google Earth zooms out to about a 21 mile altitude centered northeast of Marmet. I do find a Pratt Police department. Zooming in on that I find Pratt, but following RR tracks on both sides of the river produces no rail yard all the way to the next named towns in either direction.
Charleston: Looks like major Highway (Interstates 77 & 64) construction ate any rail yards in Charleston. I do see a railyard in South Charleston, but it is associated with an industry and has no turntable.
Huntington: I see several large RR Yards, and one Softball field where I would expect a Roundhouse, but no other evidence of such.
Kingston: a couple of large buildings and some smaller outbuildings and a RR track to a coal
Additions
Rummelsburg (Berlin), Germany - DB Complete circular Roundhouse
52° 29’ 43.83" N 13° 29’ 29.19" E
Augsburg, Germany - DB - two Roundhouses with Turntables
48° 20’ 51.99" N 10° 53’ 35.15" E
Hof, Germany - DB - Roundhouse, Turntable filled in
50° 18’ 37.10" N 11° 55’ 00.38" E
Regensburg, Germany - DB - Roundhouse with Turntable
49° 00’ 38.77" N 12° 04’ 53.85" E
Chemnitz, Germany - DB - Roundhouse with Turntable, remains of 2nd Roundhouse with Turntable
50° 51’ 33.36" N 12° 56’ 05.04" E
Saalfeld (Saale), Germany - DB - Roundhouse with Turntable
50° 39’ 12.87" N 11° 22’ 32.58" E
Gera, Germany Roundhouse with Turntable
50° 53’ 23.91" N 12° 04’ 43.16" E
Stendal, Germany - Roundhouse with Turntable, Remains of second.
52° 35’ 39.84" N 11° 50’ 51.32" E
Schwerin, Germany - R&TT
53° 38’ 16.29" N 11° 24’ 24.16" E
Halle an der Saale, Germany - 3 R&TT
51° 29’ 22.18" N 11° 59’ 38.48" E
Merseburg, Germany - R&TT
51° 20’ 42.38" N 11° 59’ 32.65" E
Celle, Germany - R&TT
52° 37’ 50.44" N 10° 03’ 59.17" E
Cottbus, Germany - R&TT
51° 44’ 59.09" N 14° 18’ 06.83" E
Bitterfeld, Germany - R&TT
51° 38’ 18.54" N 12° 18’ 24.40" E
Wittenberge, Germany - R&TT, remains of 2nd R&TT
52° 59’ 53.58" N 11° 45’ 50.84" E
Neubrandenburg, Germany - 2 R&TT
53° 33’ 44.61" N 13° 15’ 43.71" E
Darmstadt, Germany - R&TT, remains of 2nd R&TT
49° 52’ 46.47" N 8° 37’ 34.24" E
Bebra, Germany - 2 R&TT
50° 58’ 07.81" N 9° 47’ 57.54" E</
Sr. Semper Vaporo –
Do I understand correctly, that the only listings you wish to include on your list, are those turntables and roundhouses that you can find on Google Earth (current or historical)? For example, I can document (using various historical records) that there was an SP turntable in Pacific Grove, California (on the Monterey Peninsula). But that entire end of the line was abandoned in 1978-79 or so, and has been fully developed with no trace of the facilities on Google Earth today (or any historical view).
Interested or no?
Good question…
My original intent seems to have been lost with the addition of Historical Imagery. Google Earth seems to be adding more Historical Imagery that goes back farther in time, so maybe knowledge of locations prior to the present limit in Google Earth can be verified someday in the future when older images become available (I have seen some as far back as the 1950’s!).
So to answer your question… yes, I guess as long as you have good documentation that can resolve to an (at least somewhat) accurate geographic location for the center of the turntable. So, if you have (or anyone has) some concrete evidence of the location then by all means see if you can resolve it to the geographic coordinates of the center.
I want to stay away from vague recollections of “a roundhouse somewhere near the north end of Podunk Street in Hickville.”
But if those recollections can be resolved to the coordinates then it would be okay… something like… “If you drove too far north on Podunk street and the turntable was turned to the N/S position you could drive right onto it, and when the turntable was turned to the east stall you were looking directly at the Hickville water tower that was in the center of what is now City Park, just a block to the east.”
If your recollection is vague
Thank you for the clarification. It is not my recollection (it was a bit before my time!), but I have read much about it in the histories of Southern Pacific’s Monterey (Calif.) branch and the Del Monte. (Apparently, it was pretty short, so at one time they could only use certain specific short-tender locomotives on the branch.)
I’ll try to do a little work to see if I can pinpoint the coordinates.
Thanks for the response, S.V.! I’ll be taking a little while, but I should be able to pull out some track diagrams and perhaps locate some of those turntables for you. They could have been anything from 80 feet to 115 feet.
Okay, here are a couple of new ones in Germany:
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Germany |
Augsburg |
48°20’51.91"N |
10°53’35.19"E |
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Germany |
Augsburg |
48°20’56.39"N |
10°53’37.33"E |
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Germany |