SD70ACE

Hi…Does anyone knows how much does the real SD70ACE cost? [:)]

About 2.5 to 3 million dollars.

They’re really cheap aren’t they.[(-D]

BTW: [#welcome] to the forums

James

Hi[#welcome]pocket change uh

Exactly!! Pocket change.[(-D]

James

I wonder if the CPR will purchase SD70ace’s to replace their SD90MAC H-II’s?

the ACE’s price, if James is correct, is actually 2 million less than what i had guessed

I have heard rumours some had already been ordered.

are the sd90ace to big thes days or to old ?[%-)]

Its SD90MAC, or SD90/43MAC, and they are too big.

I knew that thinking of to many locomotives at once[D)]

If you have to ask then you can’t afford it.

From what i heard, those beasts called the SD90MAC H-II’s were 6000bhp like the AC6000CW and quite hard to maintain, so likely CPR will replace them with the SD70ace. I still wonder why they did’nt make an SD100ace…lol

This photo gives an idea just how massive those SD90MAC H-II’s are.

With UP and now CP dumping those SD90s, I wonder what will become of them? Is there a lease market for them? They’re fairly new, but I guess they’re not much younger than the ALCO Centuries were when railroads started getting rid of them.

Second question, because I can’t tell by looking at them, are the variations of the SD90 really that much bigger than an SD70ACe? To my eyes, they look about the same.

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The price for SD70ACes various depending on accessories, KCS ordered theirs without the HTCR radial steer truck and they cost $2.11 million, they paid $2.17 million for their batch of ES44ACs recently delivered to KCSdeM. Like anything else price is negotiable, larger quantities give the buyer more leverage.

UP has pretty much given up on the SD90MAC-H, they still have 20 of the first batch on the roster, but they are in secondary service where a failure doesn’t cause big problems. The entire second batch was returned to EMD, along with the prototype. All 41 were leased to KCS who didn’t have much luck with them either. All of these are now stored. In contrast CP is willing to allow EMD to tinker with their 4 SD90MAC-H locomotives, they seem to be running more steadily now, but they are restricted to working close to the EMD maintenance facility in Winnipeg, MB.They cycle between Saskatoon, and Thunder Bay on secondary manifests and grain trains.

There are no plans to dispose of CP’s SD90MACs with the 4300hp. engine. They are restricted to Canadian service only, because CP saves money by not keeping up the FRA certification.

Yeah, those SD90MAC H-II’s are loud suckers, and massive, i hope to get some on video here in Winnipeg[8D]

Better hurry, as EMD may pull a GE, and stop supporting them!

Does GE not support the AC6000CW anymore?

I never heard anything about them being put off the roster (The MAC-HIIs) and I am sure there aren’t any plans for getting rid of them in the near future… All four of them are used on basically only local freights out of Winnepeg, their maintenence base. This can make for some pretty odd consists, such as one I caught a few years back in Upsala, Ontario. (Sorry about the quality, my photography wasn’t as good back then!)

And as for buying SD70ACes, that’s just a rumour. This kind of rumour has been around for decades, so please don’t accept it as fact. For years I had it coming from more reliable sources that CP was getting SD70MACs, and as you can see…

I just saw two UP MAC-HII 3 weeks ago in Marble city OKlahoma the town I grew up in

its on the KCS main line

thay were at the head of a coal drag