Shinohara turnouts

Model Railroader General Discussion (Model Railroader)
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I am getting back into the hobby after many years away. I have acquired a number of DCC friendly Shinohara turnouts. After laying track on my new layout, I am at the point where I need to install some of the turnouts and have decided to use both Caboose Industries hand operated ground throws and Tortoise switch machines. I have read about everything on the subject of installing turnouts, wiring them and connecting switch machines to the throwbars. My question is why does Shinohara have extra long ties on both sides of the throwbar and what is their purpose? I understand a throwbar sticking out on both sides and using just one for the switch control but the tie issue is my question

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On the prototype, the long ties at the points typically acred as mounting points for a hand throw or power switch machine.

They’re mostly for looks on the Shinoharas, as you can spike through them to mount a hand throw, although they serve the same purpose visually. You can trim off what’s not needed or which may intefere when they ar packed closely together.

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Thanks Mike!

I kinda thought that was the case but I always hate to get in a hurry and modify something without being sure of anything that could be affected by such.

Mike Stubbs (wyattee)

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The headblock ties can be used on either side depending on where you need to mount a ground throw or switch machine linkage. On the prototype, the switchstand is normally on the diverging route side of the points, but in some situations (like a yard ladder) it’s on the straight side. Shinohara’s design allows you to use either one, and as Mike said trim off the other that you’re not using. A few other brands do the same, like Atlas “Super Track 83.”

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I have about 20 of those. I left the long ties as is, sticking out over the cork and only trimmed those needed for installation (e.g., when another turnout was affected in a yard). Now I’ve painted the track and have acquired some switch motors and switch stands to install. When I get to one, I add a small cork pad for the device and trim the long ties as needed on each side.

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Thanks Rob!

I’ve spent a LOT of time reading EVERYTHING on track and turnout design as well as mounting using sound proofing and cork as a combination roadbed. So, I feel I’m fairly up to date with my 10’ x 20" layout design. But, one thing I know is that before I guess about something as I build, if not sure, ask! Appreciate the comment on the diverging side for prototypical accuracy.

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Paul,

Also a good point. Your point about leaving the long ties until ready to mount manual or motorized throws is very helpful. Thanks!