Smoking in the cab

Hi guys,

Yesterday I saw a train where he engineer was smoking. Are they allowed to smoke in the cab? The train was stopped if that makes any difference.

dekruif

I would guess that depends on the RR company. Most likely not. Your avatar is pretty smokin’. Perhaps the engineer longs for the days of steam engines.

Well, a week ago I saw a CalTrain enginer smoking in the cab during his run as he pulled up to my station. ( I was getting on ).

I also thought it was a rule about not smoking in the cab. ( or on the job for that matter )

I doubt he longed for the days of steam engines, and yes he (Tony Stewart) is smokin’. That’s a picture of his chicagoland vistory of '05

dekruif

Yes…Railroaders are real people that has vices…Railroaders also smoke in cabooses…Asking any man or women to not smoke for up to 12 hours would have the operating unions howling over unfair labor practices.

I see your point but wouldn’t it suck being the next guy assigned to that engine, if your not a smoker that is.ugh

dekruif

Actually, dekruif, quite a few businesses have gone smoke free, for just the reason Brakie mentioned. There are some legal precedents regarding second-hand smoke exposure. But you are correct, the railroad would have to have some BALLS to take on the unions… they would likely win in our current legal climate/system, but at what cost…

Brian

I don’t think they smoke in cabooses anymore. I’m not sure why.[%-)]

Boy I don’t know either. maybe it has something to do with that cabooses are around no more.

Maybe somebody has a better thoery.Chuckle

dekruif

So, are we saying that smoking kills cabooses, too?

Hmmm…steamies smoked, gone. Cabooses smoked, gone. maybe Gary Larson was right, the dianosaurs are gone because of smoking!

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Yikes!!! Another thread involving smoking? These always get interesting.

No…There are other fumes usually from the prime mover…Smoke would be of little concern after all this isn’t a cubicle in a airtight office building…

Even with todays wide cabs I still hear how cold and drafty they are.

Smoking is not permitted in the cab of a locomotive, a caboose, passenger car, or any enclosed railroad building.

However, the smoking ban is routinely ignored. If one member of the crew asks the other not to smoke, most of my guys are good about not smoking. And most have the common sence to not smoke when supervision is around.

Nick

It’s not so bad going outside the office for a quick smoke on a shortline but one of those hotshot intermodals is a real problem. At least the butts don’t build up into a disgusting pile. [;)]

hey Nick, what were you saying about nasty smells in GEs in 100 degree temps?

Don’t light up on UP property !!! Stupid people always baffled me … The rules say no smoking in ANY enclosed area , the car shop is FILLED with welding smoke, the engine house is FILLED with exhaust… WTF ??? If you light up in any of these smoke filled shop spaces , you risk losing your job !!

I’ve stood outside the airport having a cig (cause you can’t smoke anywhere else) and had some moron say something to me , WTF !!! there are hundreds of vehicles driving past spewing out exhast fumes and this MORON is worried about second hand smoke !! Needless to say , a few words were spokes, some threats made and that moron walked away in a cloud of bus exhaust !

Gee; all you hear about is how bad smoke is for you. But, they sure won’t dare tell a diabetic that sugar is actually a poison- that blows no smoke.

Go ahead- stuff your face with donuts.

Nick,Can you back that up with a link to the railroad rules?

Sorry that sounds like a urban legend.

http://www.academyhealth.org/nhpc/2003/leutzinger.pdf

What about amtrak?? Same rules I assume…