When I showed some o-scalers some shotes of plowing snow “Is that real snow”
they all came to look!
You guyes fogot the smoke drifting into the air not setting off the smoke alarms!!!
I hereby issue a blanket apology to Vic- you do have an outdoors, it counts as a garden and meets the requirements of LS Garden RRing. I will now fall upon my sword, …er… um… my keyboard. [:I]
smcgill- don’t forget the sparklers and other fireworks! HA! Try THAT one inside!!!
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hehe I just told an HO model railroader that he needed to get out into the garden. His wife and grandson agreed[:D]
Marty, [;)][}:)][;)]
So misunderstood!?!
I’ve dabbled in a few scales - remember I wrote scales not toys - and when I decided to go to IIm one of my friends (a 100% proto modeler) asked me why I would want to start playing with toys at my age, after all I was a proto modeler in HOm.
Soooooo, the funny looks and snickers will continue just as long as we have that “scale/gauge” discussion on a regular basis. That along with the “but it’s r-e-a-l pretty!” (Not my grammar!) will make sure of that.
Having a convers
Hi Dave,
Russ calling you “young Dave” must have been good!
For the rest and the above: EXACTLY!! [#ditto][#ditto]
HJ
As I was sitting waiting for my youngest to get off the computer so i can have a turn. I was telling him I need a new photo album as you said. Now I read this. Great minds think alike.
We have many challenges, just getting kids to think about trains is hard enough.
Let alone afford them.
I was watching the last part of some show which was about Lionel modern trains and how realistic they are with sound , lights, action. Trains at high speed racing , shiny, I just laughted as the guy talked about how realistic his “toy” train layout was.
Don’t get me wrong, I have lots of friends who are collectors and realistic back in the 50’s but now???
You got to be kidding ME!!!
Yes he had more money in his trains than I will ever have but to use the work realistic.
Of course I’d love to see any railroader, toy or other wise move to town just to have some one close to play trains with.
Well back to book work, freedom of self-employment.heheheh
I’ve got stuff in “0” 2-rail that is from before WWII that looks just fine…in fact, the sand-cast aluminum hoppers, when done right, are mistaken for $275 imported units!
What IRKS me to the point of URPING is the underbody detail on “0” stuff these guys have to pick up, flip over and show you.
So What? I ask them.
Look of uncomprehension…
“The ONLY time you’re ever gonna see that is if you do something wrong!”
Like what?
“Derailment, crash, or…pick it up and flip it over…”
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
I grew up with 726’s, 225E’s, 675’s…
The Delta trailing trucks, metal siderods and all that valve gear…eyeball height, knuckle couplers, but we re-painted with Floquil (or whatever flat was available), and re-lettered to something other than “Lionel Lines”…
Called us “Hi-Railers” back then.
GarGraves phantom rail, wood ties, #6 switches…
None of this shiny crap at Warp Factor 6.
My buddy and I both model Northern Pacific in 3-rail.
I also do in 2-rail.
We were part of the LOTS group for several years, built modules and went to shows…signed up to run together, just us, brought down all NP stuff…
60 car freights, double-headed (we had operating couplers on the nose of all our steamers), with a third unit 2/3 of the way back, running two mains at prototypical speed.
Kids actually preferred it, and it drew adults like bees to honey.
Last layout I built indoors was his, I think.
15 years ago.
Wired it up state-of-the-art 1940’s.
One switch macine has failed and one solder joint to the black center rail in 15 years.
I was over there a month or so ago wiring in his turntable and roundhouse for a Classic Toy Trains cover shoot and story ( a ways out on publication), and the guys from CTT were amazed at the prototypical speeds and consists.
Upper level sitting on a barstool is eye
Well, Marty, you’ve really stirred up a lot of interest over on the Model Railroader forum with your photos. Keep it up – I think you’ve got a couple of hot prospects for converting to G-scale over there.
Charles
I need to question my motives here.
Rene will be hearing about it if i am not careful.
One of her forum guys have ,“derailed”
Back to TOC’s 3 rail stuff. man it ran, it runs . I had A.F. for years and neverbroke down.
Charles, maybe some day we need to try to get a "outdoor model railroad " in . M R .
Rene was kind enough to help me a little her because I told her that I don’t think most of them in that office understands that we love to model to. In different ways.
I have been in the train hobby from age 8. my first Marx’s set was 2 yrs old.
14 yrs in G and i feel I still have so much to learn.
My personal (sometimes) problem is folks look at how large something is, and not at the quality of the different pieces that make it up.
I rather show folks the few scratch built cars that I have done or the weathered ones.
The RR is just a batch of bushes, grass and dirt with track running through it. Now the bridges I’m proud of, tried to research and find photos that look believeable.
When our steam up starts this 24th I’m going to really try and take good shots of all the great models that show up and post some of them.
I get running around so much I usually forget.
BTY
On MR you’ll have to follow the “How do you make snow ?” thread.
That will be fun.[:p]
hehe A small scale friend used to criticize, “G is for people who don’t care anything about scale.” Now he realizes that in G I’m very aware of scale and he has always just assumed it. Now he has a caliper and is discovering that most of his rolling stock is short and the track is wide…
Marty;
Saw the “snow” post, almost LMAO.
I’ll admit, I got a little “fiesty” myself. Someone over there was threatening to go to HO (oviously meaning he was leaving N) looking for something that made smoke. I chimed in about taking it outside to the garden. Even went so far as to make a comment about leaving the transformers behind and running on live steam with real smoke. (OK I appoligise to all the Live Steamers here and anywhere, as I probably let my alligator mouth overload my humming bird a[censored], especially since I’ve only just begun in the GRR (almost totally LGB).
Sorry, just could not help myself.
Hi smcgill
When did you get a coal fired loco for the garden[:D]
Thats something else we can have if the buget will cope with it.
Thanks for reminding me of what I cannot afford but hey its nice to dream[^]
regards John
Hi troy
Whats a tram[swg]
Did you get those pictures of the Kalgoorlie tram and trailer??
regards John
No coal! [:(] That would be cool!!
I do have a MTH 3rd rail and I could only run it (smoke ) for 5 min. before the smoke alarm went off!!
I Run my shay all day with the smoke and do not even think of the smoke alarm!!
Some thing a boute cool weather and smoke!!
John, I think a “tram” is a big bus that runs on rails…[(-D]
In all honesty, I have a small (2x8) HO RR inside, mostly for the inclement weather days and also so as not to waste all that money I spent on the HO stuff. I’ve been in the garden about 4 years now, and there is no going back! I’m starting to look at it more like Marty, with quality now becoming important to me now that I have the basic RR established. My move to wireless has greatly improved my operations, I now have a timetable and 5 different routes supporting two trains. My scenery is constantly changing, and yes, the pine needles, slugs, ants, leaves, rain, heat, cold, snow, and other unexpected natural occurances can be irritating, but isn’t that what the real RR’s had to put up with to get the trains through?
TOC is dead on with his views, but we each have our own likes and dislikes to throw in the mix. I also don’t see any purpose for detailed undersides, and I know the value of good trackage and wiring. I am moving towards more realism, but I will never abandon my “looks r-e-a-l nice” trains. I originaly moved outdoors to escape all the superdetailing-prototype-or-die headaches. I am at a point now where both worlds are coexisting very nicely. I expect that come spring, my rolling stock will be much improved in looks and performance after winter upgrades.
In other words, I’M HAVING BUCKETS OF FUN AND I DON’T CARE WHAT ANYBODY THINKS!!![(-D][:-,][:D][:D]
[oX)]
Don’t know as I could add anything that hasn’t already been so properly stated; so I’ll just “Ditto”.
Hi Tangerine Jack
Realism it rains you get wet its hot you reach for a refreshment you need a shovel to build a railway.
how much more real do you want[:D]
Seriously realism can be an interesting descusion in its self it don’t just rely on that car being 22’ long and 9’ wide just like the real one and detailed to the enth degree.
regards John Busby West Australia
Being into G Scale and 3-Rail O Gauge, I have often been accused of not caring about scale. My response is to turn around and tell them that scale is over-rated. This will just about send the small scale guys into convulsions. For me, it stops being fun when we start obsessing. I say if it looks good, run it!
hehe I like that. “Scale is overrated.”
As John said
“I am at a point now where both worlds are coexisting very nicely.”
I to talk alot about modeling and detail and the 20 ft rule.
My point is openness by others.
I was watching a cool N scale layout the other week and the trains and layout design was great.
Matter-of-fact I had copied measurements off of some of his buildings once to build mine.
I have photos of one small HO layout that was at the last GATS show that gave me so many ideas I just stood there and stared.
No where are those photos???