Somebody help me out here, Is there any Product or Raw material that HAS to go by train?

That cant be moved by truck. Dimentional Loads would be one.

Yes,ME.I truly HATE to travel any other way[;)]!

anything “could” be moved by truck that is moved by train…but it would take a hell of alot of trucks to do what 1 unit train can do… 1 unit train of grain or coal of 100 cars and weighing around 15000 tons…would take a fleet of trucks to move… you want more trucks on the highways?
csx engineer

To go a little further on what csxengineer98 was saying, back in 1983 the Southern Pacific started a unit tank train, a contract train for Shell Oil, that is a unit train carrying crewd oil 1,848,600 gallons worth in 78 tankers with a weight of 10,608 tons that moved from Bakersfield to the Shell Oil refinery in the Long Beach area.

It would take up a lot of tanker trucks for that move.

Ahem… [8]

A river barge properly manned and with enough capacity can haul everything you can put on that 80 car train.

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But only where the river runs…at some point it has to travel over land, either by truck or rail, with a few exceptions,
Some products do travel from point of origin/manufacter to point of use/consumption by barge only, but more products travel by rail.

Ed

Anything that has to be put on a Schnabel car.

…you don’t see too many river barges hauling coal out of the powder river basin.

The Shell crude moved by pipeline before the train started in late 1981.

Large pieces of dimension limestone, limestone used in building construction (pentagon, all kinds of memorials, etc.) I know use to basically use a all rail route until it got very near the final destination. This is basically due to the fact that it is cost prohibitive to ship very heavy pieces long distance by truck. All kinds of permitting and escorts are needed for very large and heavy loads.

Another example is the Boeing aircraft bodies and parts, which travel on the “Boeing Train” from Kansas to Washington State.

Question how fast can the Oil move in a pipeline?

Some articles are even too large to be moved by rail because of clearences so they are moved by barge. An example of this were the External Tanks for the Shuttle. They were shipped by barge from the Michoud Assembly Facility to Cape Kennedy. Some articles are too heavy to be shipped by truck because of axle load restrictions.

For what it’s worth, being that I read it in the Chicago Tribune, fuel from Texas moves to Chicago via pipeline at 4 MPH.

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For what it’s worth, being that I read it in the Chicago Tribune, fuel from Texas moves to Chicago via pipeline at 4 MPH.

But it just keeps comming out of that pipe, or so I hope.

Large military convoys(heavy tanks etc) over long distances.

Hoboes.

If the oil moved in a pipeline b4 81’ why did the SP even get involved???

I don’t think a pipeline ever moved oil in this lane.

Almost all of the crude oil from the southern San Joaquin Valley and central coast goes to LA. The August 1994 issue of Trains has an article about the Oil Cans. Also, the BKDOU, then MJDOU, has been completely replaced by a pipeline. They finally built a new one. It seems like it was over the Tejon Pass. I remember seeing a new pipeline being laid there in the late 1990s.

I’ve been out of the LA scene for a few years (disclaimer),but…
The only pipeline I know of is the one from Bakersfield(Taft) to Mojave(Fleta). The tank train still runs from Mojave to Dolores. The pipeline just eliminated the run over the hill.

LOL!!! [:D]Good one. Definatly got a laugh out of me. I don’t think that Hoboes can travel by anything else ether.[;)]