Southern 2-6-0 oil fired

Hi guys

I just bought an HO oil fired 2-6-0 that has southern on the tender. I picked it up at the Belleville Ill. swap meet, its’ used with no box. The tender top and the cab top are red with the rest of the engine painted green. on the bottom is embossed made in Slovenia and some markings ending in “no”. Can anyone give me information on this? The tender had been repaired and I’m redoing that. The engine seems to run very good though I only have straight 12V to run it on. Has anyone ever heard of the factory in Slovenia?

Have a good evening. [:)]

lee

I’ll place my bet that it’s an IHC Mogul, made by Mehano. Does it have deeper flanges than the RP-25 standard? That’s another clue.

I have a couple of IHC Consolidations and a Mountain. The detail is cast on but the drive is absolutely silent and very smooth.

George V.

G.V.

It does appear to have the deeper flange. I’ll have to take a picture an post it on this post later, Right now it’s in a bunch of pieces. Some one had tryed to repair a dropped tender and not very well. I also want to install a decoder, I hope I can get one with the sharp (shrill) whistle.

Thanks

Lee

PS The boiler hand rail is wire but the other details are molded.

I have a Southern 2-6-0 from IHC. Most of the detail is molded on, but there are quite a few separate parts as well (for an IHC, anyway). Mine came with a coal tender instead of an oil tender, so I wonder if the last owner tried to modify yours?

I did a short review on it a few years back. After using a speed calculator, I found the actual top speed was around 70 scale MPH. The tender’s got plenty of room inside, but installing DCC will require quite a bit of rewiring.

Darth

Yes it is the same engine as you reviewed. The top of the tender is just a snap on to change the style.

thanks

Lee

I have one of the IHC versions, too, and while it’s a decent runner, its starting voltage is quite a bit higher than any of my other locos, making doubleheading “interesting”. [;)] Mine came with the oil insert in the tender, but I shortened the tender and added an open bunker for loose coal:

Wayne

As has been noted, that’s an IHC Mogul. Made in Slovenia, by Mehano. I have one, and like the smooth drive. The prototype appears to have been a Southern Pacific (SP) Mogul. The Southern Ry. did not have a Mogul that looked remotely like that, and even if they had had one, they wouldn’t have painted it green. The green locos were reserved for the Southern’s crack passenger train, the “Crescent Limited”. (Yes, I know they painted a Mikado and a Consolidation in green, but that was for the fantrip crowd. In service, they were black.)

That is what I wanted to know. I liked the looks even though it may not be a true depiction of the prototype. I think my grandkids will like it because it looks a lot like Thomas.

Have fun

Lee

That 2-6-0 really looks nice, granted you worked it over but even so it inspires me to get a couple for my “private road” and do some “mods” to them as well.

Bravo!!! Nice job there…

Mark

Thanks, Mark. Other than a few details, the loco is pretty-well stock, while the tender got the bulk of the modifications. I was trying to give it a family resemblance to this older Mogul, an ex-B&M B-15 from PFM.

When I get around to finishing some other loco projects, I’ll remotor and regear the 37, then update it with a more modern cab and new details. The 34 has already been remotored (it outpulls the 37 almost two-to-one) but I want to upgrade it with piston valves and a new cab, along with some details to further alter its appearance.

Wayne

The Southern never purchased any Moguls new, but inherited about 50 of them from predecessor railroads. The last two (nos. 3002 and 3047) were not retired until 1947. They were painted in the black freight scheme, but were used in mixed train service on the Hawkinsville-Cochran Ga. branch.

The green paint scheme, however was not reserved only for their ‘crack passenger train, the Crescent’. It was used on all of their classes of Pacifics and Mountains as well as some of the 4-4-0’s and 4-6-0’s that were still on the roster after 1926. Every passenger train the Southern operated, from the Crescent down to the lowly branch line local, at one time or another rated a green locomotive on the headend.

Dale Latham

This is quite correct. Only locos that were normally assigned to passenger service got the “treatment”. Locos that were normally used in freight service were black.

So did they have and “use” any “black” 4-6-2’s and 4-8-2’s?

All of the Mountains and the initial run of Ps-4 Pacifics (1923) were delivered in the black passenger scheme. With the arrival of the 1926 delivery of the green Ps-4’s all earlier Ps-4’s and the Ts and Ts-1 Mountains were then painted green as well. There may have been a mountain that retained it’s black paint, but I am not aware of it.

Almost all of the earlier smaller Pacifics (classes P, P-1, Ps, Ps-2) were also painted green, but a very few were not. P-1 No. 1298 remained in black for passenger service on the Appalachia Division to St. Charles, VA. however the tender was lettered “Lonesome Pine Special” with the word Southern on the coal bunker.

Dale Latham

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it!!!

Mark

Wayne

RE: IHC 2-6-0 Mogul
I agree about the high starting voltage required. I put a D13SRJ that I hand on hand, in mine (motor only) because I thought it was’nt worth the cost of sound. I have’nt set up the CVs yet and was wondering why is the start voltage so high, is it the old style motor or what? Wiring the decoder was fun [:-^] Finding a place to put 6 wires in place of 2 was a learning experience.

Have fun.

Lee