I guess I’m not surprised it hasn’t been made in anything but brass, but one that I’d like to see as an affordable model is the PRR S1 6-4-4-6 Duplex. There was only one built, and only as an experiment, but it was a very popular attraction to people all over. It was also well advertised, ran for four or five years, gave a smooth ride that the crews liked, and may have even achieved speeds faster than the Mallard. Besides all that, it just looks down-right cool.[:D]
Garry,
I love this shot of 5632 from an early 60’s railfan excursion. A genuine case of life imitating art. It’s a crime she was cut up.
a prototype not to paint your brass locos, wow
Dick Jenson had it sitting in a yard area in Chicago, the yard needed it moved, I think Dick said it wasn’t ready for moving, so the railroad scrapped it on the spot.
Dick brought loco pieces into the courtroom…
True this engine was scrapped, but so was his 4-6-2. Both were scrapped because no rent was paid and the railroad collected the sum in scrap iron whe he failed to move them.
There was a notice given several times and railfans did not respond to help with the cost of saving these engines. It could happen again today for the individuals who try and run their locomotives on mainlines and run out of money.
Do you know if Dick got anything back in return after the court action???
I talked to Dick in Ft. Worth when he was preparing the 610 for the Freedom Train duty.
Dick brought loco pieces into the courtroom…
I agree with Orsonroy–where are all the 4-6-0s, 2-8-0s, 2-6-0s, 2-6-2s, and 4-4-0s? While I have to applaud Bachmann for their Spectrum 2-8-0, 4-6-0, and 4-4-0, they’re not quite right for many railroads. How about about an NYC F12e, a beautiful design that was copied by many railroads?
As a newbie with a couple of pennies in my pocket. I’ve seen pictures of a streamlined GTW 6410 4-8-4 U-4-b. I don’t know if its ever been produced in scale, but, I wouldn’t mind seeing one of these beauties produced. I think, but I’m not sure, only 5 of them were built.
I would even settle for a few more Locomotives with all weather cabs.
That GTW U-4b has been imported at least two times. First around 1980 from NICKEL PLATE PRODUCTS, second less than a decade ago from FOMRAS.
Selector posted regarding CP2816’s whistle like a pig’s squeal.
I can advise that CP 2816 actually has 2 whistles. The one in the video clip is located beside the stack and isn’t a CP whistle. It is off of a US loco and was added in Steamtown before the engine was rebuilt here. The original whistle is in front of the cab and apparently came off of a Royal Hudson. It has a far deeper sound.
I heard both of them many times on Sept.17/07 as I followed CP2816 for over 60 miles north from Thief River Falls, MN. The highway is only 50-100 feet from the Soo line tracks. I was the only car following it and drove for many miles with the window down listening to it at every miles grade crossing. They seemed to use the shrill whistle for major crossings but for the rural mile roads they used the original whistle. I have about 15 minutes of video but haven’t put it on YouTube. I have no idea how to do it.
CNW R-1 4-6-0
MILW S-3 4-8-4
Soo L-1 2-8-2
All of these are extant, have run lately. All have been through Waukesha within the past 10-15 years, the Soo engine in late June-early July. MILW 4-6-0 would be nice as well.
I used to know someone who had worked with Jensen. According to my source, workmen had started to scrap the 4-6-2 before Jensen was notified that it had to be moved. When Jensen inspected the engine before he prepared to have it moved, he found that a “test cut” had been made in the boiler, which would have been very, very expensive to repair. Jensen refused to remove the engine until the agency responsible admitted its mistake, and made proper compensation. The agency refused, and the engine was scrapped, the scappers ordered to “cut it into small pieces that could not be salvaged.” (However, I am told that some pieces were in fact salvaged, and even found their way into some restored engines.)
Apparently, the engine could have been moved only a short distance away so that it wouldn’t interfere with the work that needed to be done. During the court case, the defendants made the claim that because the side rods were disconnected, there was a danger that the locomotive’s drive wheels would distort “to an egg shape,” and this is why they didn’t simply move the engine.
If memory serves me, Jensen died while the case was in court, and his estate received some compensation.
To me, the saddest thing about all this is that the media made it look like Jensen was a man of questionable sanity, when, according to my so
As a Rutland fan I would also like to see a NYC F12e. Alco made similar locos for several other RRs (CNW, MEC, B&M . . .).
The large locos that have been produced are too large to run on many layouts. I have several Spectrum 4-4-0s, 4-6-0s and 2-8-0s. They run great on my RR. I guess the brass collector routine really doesn’t apply to the plastic loco operator. My brass mainly sits on the shelf while my plastic locos see a lot of operation.
How about the original A1-a and A1-b Berks? The A1-c’s are nice but the originals were not only the first superpower locomotives they were the epitome of B&A steam.
B&A ran a great many dual purpose Pacifics, K-3’s and K-14’s. After the J-2 Hudsons were produced all the K-6A and K-6B Pacifics were transferred to the P&LE.
F-12’s are a great looking locos. Stunning aesthetically, the best looking 10 wheelers produced!
We need a “modern” 4-6-0 with steel cab, plain sandbox and steam dome, piston valves and “modern” appliances. The Bachmann Spectrum is too old to really be of use for a mid 1950s class one. We need a locomotive that is reasonably generic in looks.
We need a “modern” 2-6-0 with steel cab, plain sandbox and steam dome, piston valves and “modern” appliances. The IHC cannot 2-6-0 run on code 70 rail, is not too well detailed and is thus not suitable unless upgraded with details that meet today’s requirements. We need a loco to be of use for a mid 1950s class one. We need a locomotive that is reasonably generic in looks.
We need a “modern” light 2-8-0 with steel cab, plain sandbox and steam dome, piston valves and “modern” appliances. The Bachmann Spectrum is a fine model but is of a heavy 2-8-0, we need something lighter. We need a locomotive that is reasonably generic in looks.
We need a “modern” 2-8-2 with steel cab, plain sandbox and steam dome, piston valves and “modern” appliances. Something that is not a USRA 2-8-2. Bachmann could easily convert the 2-8-0 into a 2-8-2 by adding another section into the boiler to make it longer for a 2-8-2 and adding a trailing truck from their 4-8-2. We need a locomotive that is reasonably generic in looks.
We need a “modern” 4-6-2 with steel cab, plain sandbox and steam dome, piston valves and “modern” appliances. Something that is not a USRA 4-6-2. We need a locomotive that is reasonably generic in looks.
Hi Roger!
You know, you just described the Harriman-standard line of engines. Right now, the only one on the market is a Harriman heavy 2-8-0, and that’s the Bachmann engine. It’d be nice if someone would come out with Harriman engines, since it&#
Funny you should mention it! In the videos where it’s doubling with MILW 261, I can hear a whistle that led me to think that the second engine (261) was also blowing signals…which would be odd. So you have cleared that up for me nicely…thanks. It all makes sense now.
In any event, I like the CPR Hudson whistle…it too is distinctive, but the pig-squeel one is the one that sounds perfect for my inexperienced, but appreciative, ears.
I guess if the Duplex and the Niagaras, and many of the other Northerns, could have a whistle and a horn, it can’t be all bad to have an engine sound like something else…must confuse some od the railfans waiting at a photo op. [:D]
I suspect that there were numerous engines that exceeded Mallard’s much-vaunted 126mph. I think it’s fair to call the whole exercise a stunt - the engine was damaged, and the crew certainly got a fright in the process. To my way of thinking a much more impressive achievement is running heavy trains in regular service, day in and day out at the 100+mph mark, such as the Milwaukee and Pennsy did.
A potential candidate for a modern record attempt would be this engine:
Mark.
I’ve seen that happen in China. The QJ 2-10-2s have an air horn as well as a nice chime whistle. We saw a group of railfans from another tour group waiting for a train to appear, but when they heard the loco horn they just assumed it was a diesel. When the train did show, it was powered by two QJs, and almost all of the other group missed the shot.
Cheers,
Mark.
Since I am a LIRR fan a PRR/LIRR H8/H9?10 as well as a G5s. These would be huge sellers.
Ray Jensen