Steam on the German DRG...

Hi detting,
if youa re still interested, thereis an net adress www.bundesarchiv.de which may help you. I stores old material back until the foudation of todays GERMANY. Its possible to view in Engli***o. Also there are German and Polish books about camouflging of locomotivrs. From Lima you can get also complete train in camouflage.
Best wishes

Verlag Slezak Publish 2 volumes in German Lokomotiven Ziehen in Den Krieg volumes 2 and 3. I would reccomend Slezak’s books without hesitation.

All the best

Kevin
http://www.erlebnisbahn.at/slezak/

http://www.euro-trains.com/rei/rei_wartrains.asp
Maybe this will help.

The original Altezeitgruppe was founded to support modelling the DRG and the website can be found at www.altezeitgruppe.com. I founded the group in 1987 but in the mid 90s the name was re-cycled become ‘Alte-Zeit-Gruppe’ run by a Mr Shaw and his friends from the GRS. As a result of this we changed our name to Die Reichsbahn Gruppe as we wanted no comparison or connection with ourselves and the GRS and Mr Shaw’s group but as we had developed our internet site we retained the URL address.

The simple difference between the two groups is that we have evolved into an internet based group whilst neither the GRS or Shaw’s Alte-Zeit-Gruppe. have any appreciable internet presence.

With over 25,000 annual visitors, we have become one of the pre-eminent English language websites on the internet for modellers of German railways. In the past four years, we have picked up awards for the realism of our layout, exhibited and lectured across Europe, been featured in the major railway modelling magazines in Germany, selected NMRA webmaster’s ‘website of the month’ and finally, have been accepted to take part in the World’s Greatest Hobby program. Our layouts have been shown at major exhibitions for the past 20 years throughout Europe and have recently been featured in Continental Modeller Nov 04, Rail Magazine July/Aug 03 and Eisenbahn Journal May 04.

I am suprised that Marc Immeker did not understand the true relationship between the GRS and Mr Shaw’s group, we have just returned from our second visit to the Nederlands, this time for Rail2004. Next year we will be centre stage (again) at Intermodellbau’05 in Dortmund.

Please come and visit a proper English language website for modellers of the Deutsche Reichsbahn at http://www.altezeitgruppe.com

Tim Hale
Founder of the original Altezeitgruppe

There is a book, probably now out of print called “Steel Rails to Victory” by Ron Ziel which reproduced a number of interesting German WWII era photos, including some of armoured and camouflaged locomotives, among many other interesting scenes. Ironically, this book written by a resident of New York state was translated into German as “Raeder Muessen Rollen”.

Eisenbahn Kurier publish a huge two volume book on the class 50 2-10-0 which might include suitable photos. I only have volume II, which has quite reasonable coverage of wartime built locomotives and some of the modifications to allow operation in the cold Russian winters. I don’t recall armour, but it might be shown. I believe that the later class 50 locomotives were built painted in a dark grey rather than black.

Peter