Teen Model Railroad Place September 2009

Exactly. On NJT, light power is restricted to 30, and multiple lite is 45.

Say that on a two car set, the brakes on one car crap out. So you have one loco and one car with one operating brakes, while there is another free rolling car that is continuing to shove the consist forward. On, say an 8 car set, if the brakes one one car crap out, you have 7 other cars, along with the loco, to stop the train, so the effects of that one car are minimalized.
Same with MUs. Say one married pair from a 12 car (6 pair) set. Doesn’t really matter, because there are 10 other cars powering the train…

The Comet IIIs are only 15 years old, so another rebuild is fine. The Comet Is were 38 when they were retired back in March, and they were rebuilt once, in 1987. So they had one rebuild in a nearly 40 year life. The CIIIs will be 20 next year (1990). If they were rebuilt, they could run for another 20 years, which if you know basic math, equals 40.

The CIVs are about not even 15 years old. In 5 years, if you rebuild them, they’ll be good for another 20 years. The CIIs, from 1983, were rebuilt into CIIMs about 20 years later (2001ish). Pretty soon, they’ll be 30 years old.

Say that in 10-12 years, they rebuild the CVs, so they’ll last for another 20 years.

In 15-17 years, the MLs can get a mid-life rebuild.

What my point is, is that just because something is old, doesn’t mean you can’t use it.
Look at the Comet Is. They were retired from NJT in March, but they’re still rolling across North America. Pretty soon, they’ll be 40. But that doesn’t mean anything. The ex-CNJ geeps are 41 years old, and they’ve had two rebuilds. So far, NJT has gotten over 25 years out of them (not counting CNJ and Conrail). GP40PH-2Bs 4205 and 4213 were recently rebuilt because they’ve had problems, and their last rebuild was around 15

Independent Brakes are stronger than Train Brakes. That’s why when you dump the air, you’re supposed to bail off the independents, or you’ll end up like NS… spilling 30 ethanol cars into a river. There were no problems when we ran 2 car bilevel trains on the North Side in the early 90s when the platforms were severely shortened for construction. I have a hard time believing that in 15 years passenger braking has gotten worse.

If you were a transit agency concerned about monetary issues, would you rather rebuild single level cars that need specific parts and are not compatible with muti level cars just to get 15 more years out of them, or… would you buy new Multi Levels to last 35-40 years, and not have to pay for a variety of different parts, and not as many to maintain and purchase parts for either…

Joe: I don’t think the speed restrictions is because they are worried about the brakes failing…I’m pretty sure it has something to do with the trainline, although the independant brakes should work just fine as Alex pointed out.

Here’s what an NJT engineer of two years has to say…

Engineer: no 3 car comets left
Engineer: except the hoboken side
Engineer: 3 car comet sets will still be 3 car comet sets, just not comet IIIs anymore
Engineer: MLs will be in 5-6 car diesel trains to replace the 7 car diesel comet trains
Engineer: and electrics are gonna be the 9 and 10 car sets you seenow

Engineer: comet 3 brakes suck
Me:so the MLs are easier to brake than the CIIIs?
Engineer: yea
Engineer: comet IIIs are the absolute worst thing to brake
Engineer: and the roughest
Engineer: and if they get rebuilt there will be NO cab cars

Hi all,

Some of you know me, others don’t…I’m Matt…I never post here anymore, but I want to try and see if I can’t at least stay involved with the teen thread. We will see how that goes…

Hi Matt! I hope you stick around this time! [;)]


I vote we get back ON TOPIC and remember that this is the Model Railroader Forums. Arguing about New Jersey Transit braking capabilities should happen in the Trains Magazine forum or elsewhere.

And to try to get us back on topic, here’s a really, really old video from me…

The White River Southern Railroad pre-Capitol Improvement 2009

I concur.
Oh wait… this is all my fault… um…[:-^]
I give up, whatever.
Just one last thing- I never realized that rebuilt CIIIs would have to be trailers since they don’t meet crashworthiness standards. Makes sense, though. I think the only ones that do are the CVs and MLVs… Ok, I’m done.

Back to our topic, which is kinda anything anyway… [%-)]

Well Tyler, I am definitly going to try!

Hey! I like the idea of showing off some old videos!

Here is my first video, from over 2 years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfT5zDx4ciE&feature=channel_page

I’ve been working on a few things over the past week…

For Vincent

For the kids across the street

Sweet work GG!

Page four? Really, guys?

BUMP

Yep…pretty slow around here!

I don’t think I’ve posted this shot before…

Train WJCD passes Kimball Scrap in Enfield, behind GP18 #9423.

Sweet shot Tyler!

Well, I worked my tail off today and got the yard completely soldered, next I’ll mark holes for feeders, remove the track, drill the holes, paint the layout foam for a scenery base, then put the track back on, and wire it up. Then on to the town.
Some shots of the yard:
Overview:

yard ladder:

Servicing:

Pic:

Main and yard lead:

Overview of front of yard:

Future furniture factory:

Rear of yard:

And two vids describing the operation:
part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/user/sbpackernut#play/all/uploads-all/1/sQynzyDF_AQ
part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/user/sbpackernut#play/all/uploads-all/0/j6JqFUCuvkU
Enjoy!

I love you Athearn!

http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/092209/06_SD45_092209.pdf

More Business for me…

Jordan, I got your GP40, and already spent all my money on the concert last night! I did get to meet the guitarist from Marcy Playground, and got his autograph(yeahhhh wozzzzzz), then got a CD signed by 2 the guitarists fromt he opening band, and ended up chatting with them, and the radio station people, while drinking free iced tea. Happy Days!

More Trainly, I now have 4 Guilford locos on my workbench to ditchlightize.

Well, redesigned my town switching area, though looks like I didn’t post about the orginal design. oh well, video and two pics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QQhqjbbPN0

Here’s my new loco…finally got around to taking a photo of it. I need to mill the weight to fit a decoder, install that, then have Alex paint and detail the unit. I’ll wait until I find, purchase, and receive the other GP18 I need to complete my roster first, however.

It will look just like 9423 when it’s finished, and keep the number 902.


Also, I took a photo of the shop crew posing on GP7 #8569.

All of these photos are on the updated WRS website, which has several new pages, and now has photos for almost every unit on the roster page. Check it out at the White River Southern Railroad website!

Tyler, you’re killing me with that beautiful L&N unit man! But hey, I understand with the WRS paint scheme man.

Sweet pic of the GP7 as well!

Well, spent my evening wiring up some feeders, connected one pair to the power pack, and the train ran all the way around the layout!
Pics and vid.
first, vid link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbDg2kjjJCc
The feeders:

Roster shot:

The GP9 (shell was received from a member of another site):

The test train: