the Canadian quaranteened. one psg dies

[morseman]

How come no posting on the canadian from Vancouver to Toronto. Radio bcast said train was from Jasper. Woman became seriously ill and died and numerous other psgrs very ill. Train was stopped somewhere before and under quaranteen.Been very busy so have not heard further. This was around noon when I heard the broadcast,

[morseman]

for full story go to:

http://cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/05/09/train-quarantine.html

[Lyon_Wonder]

Food poisoning? Carbon monoxide?

[nanaimo73]

maybe it’s the food or that Canadian beer.

Why do Americans put so much water in their beer?

[MP173]

Dale:

with the dollar so low and the grain prices so high, the only way we can afford beer is to water it down.

ed

[nanaimo73]

Dale:

with the dollar so low and the grain prices so high, the only way we can afford beer is to water it down.

ed

[(-D] Thanks Ed.

I still laugh when I remember Gabe calling Coors “droll”.

[Convicted_One]

So, one passenger has died, several others have fallen ill, one other passenger has been medivac`ed to a helicopter by men in moonsuits, AND the train has been quarantined…and we are supposed to buy into the explanation that whatever going on is non-infectious, and merely the fall of the cards?

A likely story!

[al-in-chgo]

Dale:

with the dollar so low and the grain prices so high, the only way we can afford beer is to water it down.

ed

[(-D] Thanks Ed.

If droll means dry, as in “dry vermouth,” then he’s got a great point.

I would really love to find a mass-market American beer that hasn’t been watered down. I kind of like Budweiser Select (which costs no more than regular Bud); the first couple of pulls of a super-cold bottle are nice and bright and “ricey” in the Budweiser tradition and it has a very clean finish. Before I can chug a longneck, though, the wateriness makes itself apparent, or perhaps I should say it tastes not so much watery as “seltzer-y.”

On the satiric show Reno 911 the cops define two American bears as the alcohol content of one Canadian beer. They had a point! But now there’s Bud in Toronto.

Anyway, if the people on that train have been poisoned, I very much doubt it was from either type of beer. But if they face starvation then the native product will enable them to hold out much longer than the common American “suds.”

I still laugh when I remember Gabe calling Coors “droll”.

[selector]

Last I heard the passengers in the two cars affected are largely elderly and from a “home” that may have been on a group travel arrangement. They now suspect Norwalk Virus, and it seems to make sense in that respect.

[Anonymous]

I actually had what they figured was Norwalk about 8 years ago, and for a while there I wanted to be dead.

[al-in-chgo]

I actually had what they figured was Norwalk about 8 years ago, and for a while there I wanted to be dead.

Is it anything like Legionnaires’ Disease?

[Anonymous]

Worse. With Legionaire’s Disease you’ll probably die. With Norwalk, I only wished I were dead. Imagine a stomach flu X 10 with the cold sweats and dizzyness that could almost cause you to fall off the can.

[doghouse]

maybe it’s the food or that Canadian beer.

Why do Americans put so much water in their beer?

Try Sam Adams.

[al-in-chgo]

Worse. With Legionaire’s Disease you’ll probably die. With Norwalk, I only wished I were dead. Imagine a stomach flu X 10 with the cold sweats and dizzyness that could almost cause you to fall off the can.

Sounds rotten. What you went thru sounds much more awful temperature-wise and gastrically than my hideous bout with las turistas. My condolences. I should try to get you together with my British e-pal, who caught dengue (rhymes with “Ben-Gay”) fever and was in the hospital quite a while. But then again, perhaps too morbid.

How is Norwalk transmitted, if you don’t mind my delving? - a.s.

[Anonymous]

From what I was told at the time, it is transmitted by people basically not washing their hands after a trip to the toidy and then spreading it around by touching other people (or of course touching stuff and then somebody touches the contaminated surface). I got it on a trip to Savannah, GA with my girlfriend to visit her relatives. They traced a number of other cases to a local pizza joint we went to on the 2nd night. All their family doctor prescribed to me was some medicine to lessen the you-know-whats, and I had to drink a buncha water to stay hydrated.

I figured the relatives must’ve put somethin’ in my food to keep us from foolin’ around that week.

[tatans]

False alarm, women passed away on train, a few people got the flu, nothing connected. Canada called the train to be isolated, back to normal.

[gabe]

maybe it’s the food or that Canadian beer.

Why do Americans put so much water in their beer?

Try Sam Adams.

I am not sure I give Sam Adams a score much higher that Coors. My basic rule is, if it has to be pasturized, there is a better beer. I am with you Dale, on the whole, Canadian been is much better than American beer. Although the micro brew revolution has produced some decent beers recently. Bells out of Kalamazoo, MI is not too bad.

On a more serious note (how times have changed; I now regard something more serious than beer), I really hope everyone on the train turns out ok, the disease is contained, and the family of the poor woman is comforted.

Gabe

[Ishmael]

From what I was told at the time, it is transmitted by people basically not washing their hands after a trip to the toidy and then spreading it around by touching other people (or of course touching stuff and then somebody touches the contaminated surface). I got it on a trip to Savannah, GA with my girlfriend to visit her relatives. They traced a number of other cases to a local pizza joint we went to on the 2nd night. All their family doctor prescribed to me was some medicine to lessen the you-know-whats, and I had to drink a buncha water to stay hydrated.

I figured the relatives must’ve put somethin’ in my food to keep us from foolin’ around that week.

Sounds an awful lot like the cause and symptoms of cholera. In the 19th century, with lack of medicine and knowledge of the treatment, people died like flies.

[al-in-chgo]

maybe it’s the food or that Canadian beer.

Why do Americans put so much water in their beer?

Try Sam Adams.

I am not sure I give Sam Adams a score much higher that Coors. My basic rule is, if it has to be pasturized, there is a better beer. I am with you Dale, on the whole, Canadian been is much better than American beer. Although the micro brew revolution has produced some decent beers recently. Bells out of Kalamazoo, MI is not too bad.

On a more serious note (how times have changed; I now regard something more serious than beer), I really hope everyone on the train turns out ok, the disease is contained, and the family of the poor woman is comforted.

Gabe

FWIW Sam Adams is my favorite readily-obtainable lager. My favorite domestic (but not so easily obtainable) Pilsener is, I guess, Rolling Rock. And not any “lite” versions of either.

Let me also add my concern to the people on the train, that there are no more outbreaks. You know, in 1980 they had VIA already, but I rode what was essentially still The Super Continental from Toronto to Vancouver and then The Canadian back from B.C. as far east as Winnipeg. Nothing in the least made me think anything was wrong with the food or its preparation, and that was all I ate. In fact, I had one of the best omelets of my life on board the train. Need I say that the short-order cook was Quebecois?