Since I’m one of the “crazy guys” who models Swiss Narrow Gauge - more precisely the RhB’s(Rhaetian Railway) Albula Line - and LGB is one of the suppliers of rolling stock for that line, it is fitting to do a “How close to the prototype is this stuff” comparison.
Here are the parameters:
RhB runs on 1000mm track gauge aka Meter Gauge
The scale if using 45mm track is 1:22.5 (slightly rounded according to NEM-MOROP standards)
The car that’s being measured/compared is a C2012 which has been restore by Club 1889 to the original condition and is used in the museum train consist.
The following is how LGB describes their 30340 item
Following are three drawings with detailed dimensions. Special thanks go to my fellow RhB fan Thomas Hey’l who made the dimension of the original drawing more legible.
The routine of the dimensions is as follows (example of overall length)
HJ,
After much study and considerable thought I have come up with the solution to the LGB elastic ruler problem; you need to present them with a steel ruler that will not stretch and shrink willy nilly all over the place! Just think of the service you would provide for the betterment of the hobby!
You know what? They’d probably throw it away and keep on using the elastic one cause they could bend it around the rounded corners!
I myself really don’t care about this sort of thing, however if thats what interests you, well go for it and this is the great thing about this hobby, each has his own view and is entitled to it.
For instance i have a good friend in Essex that absolutely hates sound, reckons the best thing about sound is that you can switch it off. Whereas i am really keen on it and spend more on sound systems that i do on rolling stock, yet we can talk to each other about stuff of mutual interest about this interesting and wide ranging hobby.
Our most recent discussion was about track actuated contacts and he helped me a real lot, and now i know a lot more about them and how to use them than i ever thought i would…
I would have loved to send you this by email but since this isn’t possible - I guess you have a privacy concern [;)][:p][;)] - this will do.
Since the www.rhb-grischun.ca site (including the fora which run on that site) was established, is maintained and financed by me (not an ad in sight and no membership dues), I also established the clearly stated “Rules” and set the “read only” criteria.
If that does or doesn’t suit the potential reader is left to his/her discretion; however, it seems to work for the registered members. [;)][:)][;)][:)]
Hmmmmmm.Ok.
I’ll still take that as a ‘no’ then.If you want to make it a personal issue,go ahead.
I asked a straight and fair question.I don’t want to register on any old discussion group,I just want you to post,on this forum,everything that you have personally fabricated to your exact measurements.And lots of it.
Arnie.
“Hmmmmmm.Ok.
I’ll still take that as a ‘no’ then.If you want to make it a personal issue,go ahead.”
I do believe the man tried to e-mail you, and explain, and this is why he cannot:
Member Name: railroadingman
Contact Info:
Member Rank:
Total Posts: 64 (Avg/Day: 0.18)
Last Posted: Today - 09:57:50
More About Me
Real Name: Arnold Rimmer
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Yes I have status
Occupation: worn out
Hobbies: Been railroading for many years.Daughter has taught me the delights of the computer.
So, let me explain, since you don’t understand.
I will use this word since you have used the name you have…
“You’re a smeghead, Rimmer.
The Cat will get you.”
Some of us do know all about “Red Dwarf”.
Now, if your real name is Arnold Rimmer, well, that would be too strange for comprehension.
So, HJ could have e-mailed you specifics, but you are the one who has slammed the door shut.
Besides, it’s his copyrighted material, so I guess yer right…the answer is “no”.
Wait until you get a solid hologramatic light drive…
Back to the first post, I think LGB took considerable “artistic liscense” with the pharas “faithful replica”. Most would interpret that it would be to some consistent scale on most dimensions.
But! This is LGB, well known for “elastic scale” and “selective compression” so this should not be a surprise.
I do think if you want to post and say “here is a bunch of material” you might want to make it easy for people to see.
On the other hand, if someone’s interest is high enough, then subscribing to a forum dedicated to a specific subject should not be too onerous.
From my personal viewpoint, it’s a pain to add yet another forum to my daily reading list, but if I really want to know something, then, I may have no choice.
To get back to the original topic, I guess my only comment is “sorry you’re disappointed by the LGB model”, but what they made is pretty much typical for LGB in terms of scale fidelity.
I’m quite aware of my name thankyou.I was unaware that my email was not in my profile.I’ll see if I can get that dealt with when my daughter comes over.However your post was quite uncalled for and I will get in touch with the moderator.
But after all that.
I take it that it’s a no.
Arnold Rimmer.
Seems I have to “Well, hmmmmmmmmm, errrrrrrrrr…” a few more times. [:)][:)]
OK,
first: the reason my projects get listed, explained and shown in detail on the RhB Forum is: RhB is what I model; there are enough people who usurp information on the Internet; those who model and are interested in the same will register!
second: those who know me (customers, aquaintances, friends) also know to what accuracy I produce “stuff” (commercial or hobby).
third: the title of this thread is: “The detailed example…” and that is exactly what it is. Complete with juxtaposition of what LGB says and what it actually is.
I can’t figure out why Arnold believes that HJ should post any pictures of every thing that he has built, made or bashed.
I thought the original post was detailing why HJ thought that LGB had produced a less than faithful replica. He seemed to produce some pretty convincing evidence. The quality and accuracy of HJ’s own work will not change the fact that the LGB car is not to scale.
Doesn’t anyone else think it odd that a certain Arnold Rimmer ??? starts demanding to see the work of a well known modeller, who is renowned for giving expert and accurate critiques of LGB products immediately after the latest expert critique of an LGB product.
Perhaps this thinly veiled attempt to insinuate that HJ is not deserving of his highly regarded status because he does not publish work here, is not co-incidental.
Maybe it is a crude attempt to divert attention from the point in question by a vested interest. Maybe not.
Arnold, Rhb_HJ has offered two ways to access the info, neither of which is difficult and offering to email is very gracious of him, but it is your choice…
how to update profile to show your email:
click PROFILE on green bar at top of screen next to the search bar
enter password
click box next to “allow other members to contact you by email”
scroll down and click update -your done
BTW if that is your real name (I’m not saying it isnt) you should be use to refferences to famous caracters without getting sensitive about it, particularly online where yoy can basically put in anything for your name without others knowing whether or not it is actually your name… look at my last name, then look up the movie taxi driver (70’s movie), and then you’ll know my brothers name for an example.
Curmudgeon: I personally found it very funny. Arnold, I mean no offence to you.
Rhb_HJ : FYI I just joined your forum just to see what your all about, It sounds interesting, although I’m not going to model it, Id just love to look in once in a while.
RhB_HJ , Do you have a link to your garden railway layout photo’s ?
Is the catenary on your RhB layout ,hard to maintain outside up there in the North ?
Do you actually power them with the catenary ?
What would be the scale RhB voltage for your trains ?
Thanks
