The Faller HO Swiss Lake House is a Masterpiece of Mid-Century Modernism

Wavy HardiePlank? they don’t know what they are doing, or they are installing it over some kind of sheathing other than wood (plywood or OSB).

HardiePlank is rated to be nailed at studs and can go over various types of foamboard/composite sheathing, but building a house out of that stuff is crap no matter what kind of siding you put on it.

Vinyl side will “last” longer than 20 years - but, by then it looks like crap, it is brittle, it wil not come clean, it generally cannot be repaired if something happens to it, etc. Some people have taken to painting it and the paint industry is laughing all the way to the bank.

I see lots of people living with it for a long time, and I see lots of others around here having it redone.

I now live is a brick veneer rancher built in 1964, sold as a rock. Not just brick veneer on the front, brick all the way around, with wood clapboard gables and wood sofit trim, all still in good shape.

When the trim needs painting again, I might replace the wood with Hardieplank and Azek then it would be trouble free for my lifetime and then some.

Just to be clear, when me and my people do Azek and/or HardiePlank, we paint everything after installation, even if Azek trim is staying white, it gets painted with Sherwin Williams Emerald paint, for a consistant look and UV protection.

Sheldon

Yep. I’ve seen it look wavy. Don’t know why, waves in the sheathing, twisted warped 2xs causing the waves carried all the way to the hardiplank? I think its great stuff, but sometimes the final product just doesn’t look like I expected.

I’ve seen 40 year old houses with press board siding that look better.

Yeah, the vinyl siding will fade, and it can’t be matched with new. Patch work looks terrible and some folks live with that for a few years. I

So if any of you old house lovers want the whole tour:

https://app.photobucket.com/u/carrollhome/a/bfdbd701-abf4-4d5f-bb20-786bbc5599c9

And, the Maryland and Pennsylvania Railroad ran right behind this house. The house is less than a block from the Ma & Pa Station which still stands in Forest Hill, MD.

Sheldon

Hardie plank is just fibre reinforced cement board. It has very little structural strength.

Basically, it’s the stucco version of drywall.

Wavy substrate will get you wavy Hardie plank.

Paint it and you void the warranty.

Construction litigation is something I do.

I don’t have a fireplace so I don’t have a horse in this race, but I can’t stand to see a big screen TV over a fireplace.

This seems to be very common practice on house remodels up north.

-Kevin

What are you talking about? HardiePlank comes primed for field painting or painted.

No smart person buys it prepainted.

I have been installing HardiePlank since before they even offered it primed or prepainted.

The pictures of my house, that is the 1997 paint job with Sherwin Williams Superpaint. Those pictures were taken just a little more than a year ago.

https://app.photobucket.com/u/carrollhome/a/bfdbd701-abf4-4d5f-bb20-786bbc5599c9

How many houses have you installed HardiePlank on?

Sheldon

The big TV in the living room is a perfect height for serious TV watching and I agree, TVs over the fireplace are horrible. That being said the TV in the family room which is part of the kitchen has the TV over the fireplace, however, that is where all the dogs are and it is a gong show as far as trying to watch anything so it doesn’t matter to me as I rarely watch anything in there. We also have a big screen in the master BR and another in the guest room if I really need to escape.[(-D] The mega sound system is in the LR though.

I had a greenhouse built adjoining the house. I wanted a good, solid and moisture-proof surface on what was formerly an outside wall. I knew the greenhouse was going to be damp and hot most of the time.

I chose Hardiboard textured sheet. When I bought it they offered a 4’ x 10’ panel, I don’t know if they still carry that? It is dead-flat. I painted it. [:|] Didn’t know I voided the “warranty” by doing that!

In eleven years it hasn’t shown one bit of wear, fade, buckle, cracking or mold.

Why does that not surprise me [:-^]

Warmest Regards, Ed

Ed, if you buy HardiePlank prepainted, your warranty on the paint finish ends the first time you repaint it. That’s obvious.

If you buy any of the primed products, you need to paint it to have a warranty, within 90 days of installation if I recall.

The prepainted product is not the best way to buy/install the product. The lapped siding gets caulked like wood siding, the caulk colors never match, no matter how careful you are it is hard to not scuff the prepainted finish during the install. Then what do you do? Have ugly touch up spots?

Hardie offers it prepainted because some people want it that way, not because it is the best way to install the product.

I’ve put this stuff on a lot of houses over the last 25 years. In fact painting it is one of Hardies advertising points, that you can change the color if you change your mind, unlike vinyl which is “final” when it comes to color.

Sheldon

None. I’ve litigated quite a few. Never have I come across a claim succeeding against the maker of this product. Installers can screw up the best materials by not following the makers directions

Hardie Plank is a great product if installed per makers specifications. They offer great warranty and related services as smart companies do.

I was, of course, referring to prefinished Hardie Plank which the makers wisely will not warrant after somebody else paints it.

For what it’s worth Hardie Plank doesn’t need a warranty. If installed (and finished if primed stuff is installed) in accordance with the makers requirements it is basically a permanent exterior f

I bought three very expensive tubes of “color matched” caulk, from the same manufacturer, that was supposed to match the tile grout in my bathroom.

It did not match. It was also not easy to work with.

I scraped it out and just used white Alex Plus.

-Kevin