There is an active 2-10-0 Kriegslok of the 52 series, unreconstructed too, with the Dutch museum railroad VSM (link: http://www.stoomtrein.org/index.html, no english text but click materieel, stoomlocomotieven is steamtrains).
Link to picture of said locomotive: http://www.stoomtrein.org/materieel/images/523804.jpg
VSM also has a number of reconstructed 52’s (Reko-52) from the former East Germany.
52’s are simplified 50 series.
greetings,
Marc Immeker
And those units where most popular by crews. Right?
For quanity, the GP38-2, and the SD40-2.
SD40-2 for the quantity and the F7 for popularity.
i like the SD40-2 better though…
Sorry, folks, but I still have’nt found that article.
As for most prolific builders…that’s a good question.
In most European countries the railway companies designed and built their own locomotives but for South America, Africa and Asia locomotives tended to be bought in, depending on which colonial power held the most influence and which political alignment was most favourable.
I could be well off the mark here but I’d imagine that companies like Henschel, Orenstein & Koppel, Hunslet and North British would score more highly on this than Lima, Baldwin or Alco.
That’s steam, of course. I should imagine that the various incarnations of EMD would take the crown for diesel.
Simon, what was the magazine and issue you speak of? Maybe I can get a back issue…
Erik
PS. According to my “Encyclopedia of Trains and Locomotives”, EMD is the winner of the most diesels produced from the 40’s through the mid 90’s. I am sure that GE has taken over the lead now, but neither of them put together comes close to the Soviet diesel you mentioned earlier.
Erik
It’s a monthly UK publication called Railway Magazine. Their website is’nt of much use but the article was in one of the issues this year. I very much regret passing the copy on because it really was quite a fascinating piece.
Some of my compatriots post in the “General” forum and I’ll put a message on there aking for help.
I have bought Railway Magazine in the US. Some of the bigger branches of Borders carry it.
As far as the North American market goes, the top 10 looks like this:
|
Manufacturer |
Model |
Start Date |
End Date |
No. Built |
|
EMD |
GP9 |
Jan.54 |
Dec.59 |
4092 |
|
EMD |
SD40-2 |
Jan.72 |
Feb.86 |
3957 |
|
EMD |
F7(A&B) |
Feb.49 |
Dec.53 |
3849 |
|
EMD |
GP7 |
Oct.49 |
May.54 |
2724 |
|
GE |
AC4400CW |
1993 |
2004 |
2598 |
|
EMD |
F3(A&B) |
Jul.45 |
Feb.49 |
1807 |
|
ALCO |
S-2 |
Apr.40 |
Jun.50 |
1502 |
|
ALCO |
RS-3 |
May.50 |
Aug.56 |
1370 |
I think the most popular passenger unit built in the United States is the Genesis locomotive.
Not quite. Off the top of my head, I know that there were over 400 E7A/B’s and over 400 E8A/B’s built in the United States.
The Genesis point got me to thinking- how do you measure popularity? What I was trying to do was figure out why railroads bought locomotives the way they did. The only measure I could come up with in terms of popularity was number of units sold. I am not sure that a government contract- like AMTRAK did for the Genesis- is a really fair example of popularity with buisness executives who want bang for the buck and a product that will meet their needs best.
I guess we could rule out the Soviet examples, and the German steamer as well- both examples of government control where you took it or left it.
Suggestions?
Erik
Where is the GP38-2 on that list? EMD built models where around 2.200+. Then one cant forget the umpteen hundred that have been converted from GP40(-2), GP35s, GP50s, and who knows what other models.
Everywhere I went, the SD40-2 was the most popular locomotive for the crews. The F units were a real pain in freight service (poor visibility for the engineer during switching and/or backup moves; tall ladder for the trainmen to climb up and down).
The SD40-2 was (at least when they were less than 20 years old) a warm, smooth-riding, powerful, dependable, and fast locomotive.
Except WC. They had some of the best SD45’s out there. Like WC transfer said, they where the best 45s knowen to man! So I would supose they where smooth runners. I started a thread in the locomotives section on the SD45. Here’s the link: http://www.trains.com/TRC/CS/forums/1109676/ShowPost.aspx
Gribble, I don’t know where Hugh got his data, but his numbers are pretty close to the source I used, which is: The Encyclopedia of Trains & Locomotives, by C.J. Riley, published in 1994 by Michael Friedman Publishing Group in New York. Appendix 1 of the book has production numbers for North American diesel locomotives. According to the book, EMD produced 2188 units for the US (1801), Canada (254), and Mexico (133). That would make your model number 6 on the hit parade. Now that you have me competely confused, I’ll go back and check my own addition…
Erik
GP9, GP7, SD40-2, GP38-2, SD70 series and Dash 9 series diesels.
Thanks, 4884. I was busy burning up the calculator on my cell phone while balancing a lap top and a fairly large book…
I wish they had a similar data base somewhere for steam engines as well… I have raided Borders for the UK magazine… unfortunately, they are pretty confused over there…
Erik
I dont know that we will ever know exactly how many GP38-2s there will be. We have an accurate account from EMD on new models, but with all the conversions done by railroads, and shops like NRE, we may never know the truth.
Erik.
I’ve narrowed it down to the May or June 2007 issue! I can keep trying but I’m pressed for time at present. If you want to go straight to the horses mouth it’s www.railwaymagazine.com
Quite an interesting magazine but obviously with a UK bias.
Simon, thanks! I will see if I can keep the mother country functioning economically by ordering some back issues!
Erik
The article is in the May 2007 issue - it discusses how many steam locomotives were ever built (about 636 000 world wide), and in which counties (from 177000 in the USA, 155000 in Germany and 110000 in Great Britain down to 2 in Turkey), but doesn’t say anything about the most popular wheel arrangement.
I recall reading somewhere that it was 2-8-0, but don’t recall any details.
Regarding working German 2-10-0 kriegsloks, there are quite a few sacattered across various European countries - I believe in Bosnia, there even a few still in (or available in reserve for) industrial use.
On a slightly different criteria, I don’t know whether it was the German kriegslok or the US Army S-160 2-8-0 that was most widespread, in terms of the number of counties it was used in.
